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post Sep 2 2013, 04:20 PM
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If I slept on the ground like I used to when we took our daughter camping in a tent, I would spend the rest of the day at the chiropractor. The older you get, the harder it becomes. I have spent many a night on the Appalachian trail, but unfortunately that type of thing is just physically out of reach for me. You would have me stay at home, but we enjoy traveling and go up to 3 months at a time. RV is the best way to accomplish this. It's a lot of fun. There are still numerous place to tent camp and in all likelihood, more now that when we did it. You won't find them here, but you can easily find them.


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post Sep 2 2013, 05:23 PM
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This will be my last post here. I did not come here for sympathy. I came here because what I saw this past weekend was absurd. Campers, sorry RV'rs jam packed on each other which was pathetic. I am here because what you call RV'ing is NOT camping. It is RV'ing. To pretend otherwise is a lie and a disservice to the word 'camping'. It is a shame that one more old way of life is going away because of money and greed.

I know all about the limited camp areas for tents. I will pursue those. It is sad though when you put in the word 'camping' the most responses return RV type.

Good luck to all of you. When diesel reaches 8.00 a gallon, I'll still be out there.

Funny how in the "PET PEEVE" thread you guys can complain about the other guy and what he likes to do that offends you, but yet have a problem when it turns out you are the other guy.
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post Sep 2 2013, 06:13 PM
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Wow. Well, I'll be polite anyways - good luck in the future.


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post Sep 2 2013, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(cwcsmc @ Sep 2 2013, 05:23 PM) *

This will be my last post here. I did not come here for sympathy. I came here because what I saw this past weekend was absurd. Campers, sorry RV'rs jam packed on each other which was pathetic. I am here because what you call RV'ing is NOT camping. It is RV'ing. To pretend otherwise is a lie and a disservice to the word 'camping'. It is a shame that one more old way of life is going away because of money and greed.

I know all about the limited camp areas for tents. I will pursue those. It is sad though when you put in the word 'camping' the most responses return RV type.

Good luck to all of you. When diesel reaches 8.00 a gallon, I'll still be out there.

Funny how in the "PET PEEVE" thread you guys can complain about the other guy and what he likes to do that offends you, but yet have a problem when it turns out you are the other guy.

WOW!! Kind of bitter, to say the least. Too bad you don't like my kind of camping. And guess what else, I'll still be out there when fuel hits $8.00 a gallon, because everything else will also have gone up including my stack of money. You call it greed, I call it hard work and success. If the economy has left you behind, maybe you should start trying to catch up, instead if sitting around moaning about how things aren't the way you want them.
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post Sep 2 2013, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(cwcsmc @ Sep 2 2013, 07:23 PM) *

I know all about the limited camp areas for tents. I will pursue those. It is sad though when you put in the word 'camping' the most responses return RV type


If you happen to make it up to CT try West Thompson Lake COE you will find large sites, lots of nature, with a mix of class A's to tenters all respecting each other.

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post Sep 2 2013, 09:55 PM
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I find it sad when the concept of "tolerance for others" becomes "your way of life threatens mine; you better change your ways." I can think of a number of current "ways of life" that are discussed using language similar to that, but to keep this non-political, I'll just just leave it as "you RVers threaten us campers, so you'd better stop RVing." That's not my idea of what tolerance is.



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post Sep 2 2013, 10:55 PM
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I find the comments posted by cwcsmc to be quite strange because I can not figure out what caused the outburst. Seemed like a pretty boring topic until that post.
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post Sep 3 2013, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(laringrp @ Sep 2 2013, 10:55 PM) *

I find the comments posted by cwcsmc to be quite strange because I can not figure out what caused the outburst.


Envy, perhaps? Sour grapes? The "I-can't-afford-it-so-I'll-criticize-it" syndrome? Aesop had it figured out pretty well.......

He's a "troll" - they're people who go to boards dedicated to a certain interest or pursuit and then proceed to deliberately pick a fight. It's pretty obvious that 99% of the posters here do their "camping" in some sort of RV, thus the name "RV park reviews".

And RVers deliberately backing over tents....oh, please.....that's so lame. Besides, who would want to damage their $100,000 Class A backing over his $65 tent?
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post Sep 3 2013, 01:00 AM
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Camping is alive and well. We keep a tent and extra portable stove, some tarp, etc. on board. Sometimes we leave the RV at a monthly site and take a weekend with the tent for "old fashioned" camping in the true boondocks because our tt doesn't function so well all alone without power and such. Some places simply demand the quiet commune with nature, so we find tent-only sites. We don't call our full time lifestyle camping, but we go camping when we ditch our "house" at a "campground" and find a spot that would be inaccessible with a vehicle.

I second the pp that mentioned the hellacious holiday weekends. Grrrroan!! if we ever have to deal with another circus like that at an RV park.

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post Sep 3 2013, 06:04 AM
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Those "hellacious holiday weekends" are all about what you are ready for and expect. My family has had a great time on Memorial Day weekends and especially Halloween weekends. We go to campgrounds (YES, I said CAMPgrounds!) expecting the crowd, noise, kids, night time activities and have a ball because of that.

If you don't want that experience, certainly keep that in mind when choosing dates and campgrounds.

Now that the kids are older teenagers and camping with us less, I look for quiet, no hookup rustic style campgrounds.

QUOTE(ThreeTravellingBlondes @ Sep 3 2013, 12:00 AM) *

I second the pp that mentioned the hellacious holiday weekends. Grrrroan!! if we ever have to deal with another circus like that at an RV park.


Just to clarify, I agree with you... now that our kids are older.


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post Sep 3 2013, 08:52 AM
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We all have our idea of camping. I DO NOT camp. I live fulltime in an RV and have for 10 years. I can count on one hand the number of times I have sat at a campfire dodging the smoke. I live the lifestyle I do because it is what I want to do so don't judge me and I won't judge you. I too really don't get excited about holiday weekends as they are crowded and noisy but that is life. I can't always get what I want but I get what I need. I got to tent camp when I was employed by Uncle Sam in the 60's. I had 1/2 a tent and my buddy had the other 1/2. That cured me of tent camping and sleeping on the ground. I have not "camped" since I left that employment in 1969.


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post Sep 3 2013, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(nedmtnman @ Sep 3 2013, 10:52 AM) *

We all have our idea of camping. I DO NOT camp. I live fulltime in an RV and have for 10 years. I can count on one hand the number of times I have sat at a campfire dodging the smoke. I live the lifestyle I do because it is what I want to do so don't judge me and I won't judge you. I too really don't get excited about holiday weekends as they are crowded and noisy but that is life. I can't always get what I want but I get what I need. I got to tent camp when I was employed by Uncle Sam in the 60's. I had 1/2 a tent and my buddy had the other 1/2. That cured me of tent camping and sleeping on the ground. I have not "camped" since I left that employment in 1969.


My sincere gratitude to you for your employment by Uncle Sam!!

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post Sep 3 2013, 10:28 PM
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Greetings CMCSMC,

***** Cut from your posts*****

“My wife and I decided we were going to try camping again. We are older so a few amenities would be nice. Running water, electricity for a fan in the summer, small things. We even bought a tent to see if we would like it before I modify a utility trailer to be our camper. That's right, modify a utility trailer to be a camper, because we can't afford a real camper.

You are absolutely right, RV'ing is not for me. Camping is. The problem is RV'ers have taken over the activity of camping and left those who enjoyed that activity with nothing left. Funny thing is the only reason RV'ers can do what they do is because of money. It is not about their ability to actually ENJOY the outdoors. More than likely if the money was taken away the RV parks would be empty, and the true campers would come back.

If I could say anything to the people on this forum, remember your past and give others a chance. If you like the comforts of home, stay home. If you like the fresh air of nature, (what's left of it) and ruggedness of being in it, consider downsizing so others can fit in. Remember you're supposed to be camping. The word camping has lost its meaning. That is a shame.”

***** MY turn *****

I found your posts to be somewhat melancholy. Like you were wishing for a simpler time when it seemed that everyone was in the same financial position. I can remember when most folks “camped” in tents. Most people spent a lot of time outside ‘cause there wasn’t much to do in a tent other than sleep. If it rained, there was always a tarp that provided shelter and you shared it with your neighbor if they didn’t have one. Cook houses were a great place to meet new people too. I guess, if you haven’t been exposed to the camping evolution, the transition could be somewhat shocking. But the change did not take place over night. It activity did evolve.

I have enjoyed ”getting away” since before I can remember and I am getting on in years now. I started with my folks in a small “tourist” tent along with four brothers. (That’s seven people in a car! No toys bikes or anything else for entertainment.) Once on my own and married, we still had a tent. It wasn’t long after children were born when we decided that a Tent Trailer would offer a little more comfort and convenience. From there, another larger Tent Trailer, a Travel Trailer, two class “C” s and now a class “A” and I’m still just “getting away from it all”. Does it really matter what your mode of “camping” is? The premise is still the same. If you enjoy meeting people and seeing the world, there should be nothing to stop you from doing so.

You sir, are guilty of the same “wants” as those who have more elaborate facilities. The first of your paragraphs listed above states that you are/were looking for more than just a tent. It doesn’t matter if you are converting a utility trailer or purchasing a “ready-made” RV. You would have been joining the “evolution”. You would have been backing over a tent to park your trailer. Your words, not mine.

The second of your paragraphs kind of back tracks. Now you don’t want the Trailer because every one that has more than a tent is ruining the experience. Again I say, what does it matter what you camp in? It’s all about getting away from it all. Are you worried that some folks would look down at you because of what you can afford? If that’s the case, then I am sad for you. I have to spend within my means. If that means I have a tent with patches or a mega dollar class A. It is what it is. I am not going to limit my enjoyment for fear of someone thinking they are better or worse than me. We all leave this world broke. I suggest you enjoy it whatever way you can.

The third paragraph I have quoted of yours really shows your sour grapes. To some, camping has become “Glamping”. In case you don’t understand, it pretty much means traveling in ultra-luxury. If this is what turns your crank, have at it. Life is short. Enjoy however and whatever way suits your needs. Be glad for those out there who are enjoying themselves. Most of us would not think any less of you if you were tenting or joining the “Land Yacht” class. The word “camping” has always meant getting out of your house and enjoying the world.

I do hope you get over your feeling of inadequacy and get on with life.

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post Oct 20 2013, 09:08 PM
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We used to call it "camping" when we used a tent and pop up, Now after the 5th wheel and now the Motorhome we call it RVing. Either way it is a great way to escape the everyday hustle and bustle, relax and recharge.
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post Oct 22 2013, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(SASMITH @ Oct 20 2013, 10:08 PM) *

We used to call it "camping" when we used a tent and pop up, Now after the 5th wheel and now the Motorhome we call it RVing. Either way it is a great way to escape the everyday hustle and bustle, relax and recharge.



Not ripping on you, but is it really an escape if we have the TV, computer, games, A/c?

Camping has definitely been taken over by capitalism. Build it and they will buy it.

I can understand the OP's point...we all have our idea of camping, vacations, hiking etc.

Right now we all are different in our habits and ways...hopefully we will stay that way forever! tongue.gif
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