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post Dec 18 2012, 08:48 PM
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Found this on another forum:

http://www.ndindoorrvpark.com/index.php?page=faqs

Can't wait to see someone send in a review!

"Although we were toasty inside the heated buildings, the neighbors were too close to us. And the view was horrible, nothing to look at. No room for our slideouts."

So, is anyone convinced to "winter" in North Dakota? Doubt it, I also heard this park is already full and has a waiting list.



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post Dec 18 2012, 09:06 PM
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Some people do like to ice fish and snow mobile but I am not one of them. tongue.gif


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post Dec 18 2012, 09:30 PM
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More likely a review will read, "Man! This place sure beats the heck out of freezing my butt off like I did here last winter while pulling in the big bucks in the shale oil fields." There's an extreme housing shortage in the area, and RV sites are at a premium year round.


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post Dec 18 2012, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(Dutch_12078 @ Dec 18 2012, 10:30 PM) *

More likely a review will read, "Man! This place sure beats the heck out of freezing my butt off like I did here last winter while pulling in the big bucks in the shale oil fields." There's an extreme housing shortage in the area, and RV sites are at a premium year round.


You mite be right. A friend of mine said the 1500 watt heaters we use down her in Florida is not much good in a fifth wheel up there. He was there all winter last year. rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 18 2012, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(Wink @ Dec 18 2012, 07:42 PM) *

You mite be right. A friend of mine said the 1500 watt heaters we use down her in Florida is not much good in a fifth wheel up there. He was there all winter last year. rolleyes.gif


And I would agree with your friend. I notice that one 1500 watt heater does just fine as long as the temperature doesn't get below 40 degrees. If it gets below 40, gotta supplement with the furnace and USE PROPANE, OH NO!


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post Dec 19 2012, 08:48 AM
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I am amazed they didn't call it an Rv Resort as the term is used rather loosly.


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post Dec 19 2012, 09:38 AM
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This is right near the Balkkens shale oil formations and there is a huge housing shortage, The McDonalds in Willingston starts at $15/hour with a sign on bonus. Oil workers can make 6 figures. People are sleeping in their cars. Shifts are 12 hours and the alternative is the "man camps' which supply closet size rooms. This would be a great alternative for these oil workers. We were through there several years ago and it is one of the most bustling areas in the US. There are many makeshift RV parks. It is really rough in those temps. I think there will be more of these built up there unless the EPA regulates fracking to death. I'll bet these are real expensive. Cheap hotel rooms are $100 plus per night.


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post Dec 19 2012, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(nedmtnman @ Dec 19 2012, 09:48 AM) *

I am amazed they didn't call it an Rv Resort as the term is used rather loosly.


Depending on size and time of year. 1000,00 to 1350.00 a month so there web site says.

'Wink' date='Dec 19 2012, 05:29 PM' post='32218']
Depending on size and time of year. 1000,00 to 1350.00 a month so there web site says.

I can go down to around 25 with one 1500 watt heater but that is above zero not below. rolleyes.gif



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post Dec 21 2012, 10:53 PM
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Hi,

It is 3413 btu's per 1000 watts. The ratings on heaters are....variable. It is best to use a kill-a-watt meter to do real time measurements of the wattage.

The delta T, for my Class C, with 9980 btu's of electric heaters, between outside and inside the RV appears to be 23.2C. For example the temperature out side is -8.2 C (17.24 f) and the temperature inside the RV is 15 C (59 f).

This suggests about 430 Btu's per 1 degree C delta T, or about 126 watts of heating.

Here is a calculator so that a cost comparison can be made:

electric vs propane


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post Dec 22 2012, 12:42 AM
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I'm curious, though, why only 5th wheels, no motor homes or POP-UPS?


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post Dec 22 2012, 07:10 AM
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With all this calculating did we forget that all RV`s are not insulated the same? I know for a fact that the one we have now will stay a lot warmer than the last one I had with the same heater I used in it.Even it being a bigger RV. rolleyes.gif


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post Dec 22 2012, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(Fitzjohnfan @ Dec 22 2012, 01:42 AM) *

I'm curious, though, why only 5th wheels, no motor homes or POP-UPS?

As I recall from various articles about the indoor park, motorhomes are not permitted by state law, something about the fuel tanks I believe. I think they said pop-ups are not permitted since most are not self contained. 5'vers and TT's are connected to an external LP supply, and their on board LP cylinders are removed and stored in a separate storage facility.


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post Dec 22 2012, 02:01 PM
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In regard to the "why no motorhomes" question: Imagine somebody running their MH engine for 10 or 20 minutes inside one of these structures. Even with good venilation, that is a very dangerous situation. Think of how many folks have died or almost died running the car inside their garage.
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post Dec 22 2012, 10:49 PM
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Hi,

What surprises me most is them allowing propane use inside the building. I would have though an RV furnace would put out at least some CO external to the RV.


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post Dec 22 2012, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(pianotuna @ Dec 22 2012, 11:49 PM) *

Hi,

What surprises me most is them allowing propane use inside the building. I would have though an RV furnace would put out at least some CO external to the RV.

Possibly they have sufficient ventilation to handle that? My understanding about motorhomes is that the legal issue was the fire hazard from fuel tanks, rather than running engines.


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