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> Is It Ok To Charge For Wifi, Should Campgrounds charge for Internet access?
Should Campgrounds Charge for WiFi?
Campground WiFi should:
be Free to entice more campers to the c/g [ 317 ] ** [78.27%]
be Free in the more "deluxe" sites [ 23 ] ** [5.68%]
be charged for on a per usage basis (recieve an access code at check in if paid for) [ 44 ] ** [10.86%]
be Charged for by an outside agency when loggin on [ 9 ] ** [2.22%]
not be a part of the camping experience (leave your technology at home) [ 12 ] ** [2.96%]
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HappiestCamper
post Nov 7 2009, 01:58 PM
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Okay, I've never used wifi at a CG before. I just got a Droid yesterday, and am at a CG where wifi is included. I connected to it, and it is ridiculously slow. I disconnected, and am really enjoying the 3G network instead. If you must have internet when you are at a CG because of work, don't rely on someone else's connection, bring your own.
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post Nov 7 2009, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(HappiestCamper @ Nov 7 2009, 12:58 PM) *

Okay, I've never used wifi at a CG before. I just got a Droid yesterday, and am at a CG where wifi is included. I connected to it, and it is ridiculously slow. I disconnected, and am really enjoying the 3G network instead. If you must have internet when you are at a CG because of work, don't rely on someone else's connection, bring your own.

Well your proposal may be applicable for locals but, as an example, I am coming from Canada and it would be too expensive to contact my provider for the service.
I am still of the opinion that, IF INTERNET SERVICE IS PROVIDED, it should be some thing accessible to every one and not to e selected people only.
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post Nov 7 2009, 03:43 PM
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If you must have internet when you are at a CG because of work, don't rely on someone else's connection, bring your own.


You were unlucky the first time. If you surf and look at video's, I have found that WiFi is usually much quicker. Once again, get an antenna.


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post Nov 7 2009, 08:45 PM
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I think it should be free
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post Nov 8 2009, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE(HappiestCamper @ Nov 7 2009, 02:58 PM) *

Okay, I've never used wifi at a CG before. I just got a Droid yesterday, and am at a CG where wifi is included. I connected to it, and it is ridiculously slow. I disconnected, and am really enjoying the 3G network instead. If you must have internet when you are at a CG because of work, don't rely on someone else's connection, bring your own.



You are also lucky to be at a location where there is actually 3G service... Trust me 3G and even 2G is NOT available everywhere. When you're not in a 3G zone (depending on the network it can be as soon as you leave city limits! ATT!) your speeds are no better than dialup, I've seen worse.
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post Nov 29 2009, 09:10 AM
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It also depends to some degree upon what data service you choose. At this time Verizon has the best coverage with Sprint running close behind. AT&T is our cellular provider but I chose to get an air card for Verizon because they are just too far behind on coverage.

The other thing that we have found is that by using a cellular repeater it greatly extends the area where we can use both our Verizon data card and our AT&T cell phones when in rural areas.


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post Dec 4 2009, 12:05 PM
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Let me start my post with, I use a USB WiFi 1000mw amplifier with a 9dbi antenna on my laptop, also an antenna amplifier on my cell phone so I can access the internet while I am on the road or parked in a campground. One of the reasons I select a campground for an overnight or extended stay is if it has WiFi or not. Unfortunately, most times we are disappointed because the Wifi range is limited or not working.

A properly configured router using QoS can eliminate people from doing large downloads, this would eliminate people from abusing WiFi and allow everyone to use the system. The problem with most sites is that the people running the campground are relying on someone else to setup the Wifi that may not be familiar with advanced wireless configurations.

I don’t have a problem paying for internet but I resent paying for internet that has poor connectivity.
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post Dec 5 2009, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(20andOut @ Dec 4 2009, 01:05 PM) *

Let me start my post with, I use a USB WiFi 1000mw amplifier with a 9dbi antenna on my laptop, also an antenna amplifier on my cell phone so I can access the internet while I am on the road or parked in a campground. One of the reasons I select a campground for an overnight or extended stay is if it has WiFi or not. Unfortunately, most times we are disappointed because the Wifi range is limited or not working.

A properly configured router using QoS can eliminate people from doing large downloads, this would eliminate people from abusing WiFi and allow everyone to use the system. The problem with most sites is that the people running the campground are relying on someone else to setup the Wifi that may not be familiar with advanced wireless configurations.

I don’t have a problem paying for internet but I resent paying for internet that has poor connectivity.

The only problem with rationing bandwidth is some people believe if they are connected to wifi, they should be able to do whatever they want or the system is bad. Read all the reviews that blast campground wifi systems for being slow, rationed or having limited bandwidth. It is impossible to please all people. If a campground configured their system to prevent large downloads you can bet that a review would soon appear here slamming the park for having a wfi system that is inadequate.
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post Dec 5 2009, 11:47 AM
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[/quote]If a campground configured their system to prevent large downloads you can bet that a review would soon appear here slamming the park for having a wfi system that is inadequate.[quote]

We have already had a campground owner stating he does this and I would be one complaining about it if it was slow.


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post Dec 6 2009, 06:16 PM
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Why is it called camping if you require WIFI? rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Lonesoldier @ Dec 6 2009, 07:16 PM) *

Why is it called camping if you require WIFI? rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif


Many of us camp for months at a time and need WiFi for business and entertainment purposes. I do all of my banking and bill paying online. I get most of my news from the internet. I really didn't need it when I took the Boy Scout troop out for the weekend, but when we are gone from Feburary through June, it is nice not to have my electricity, gas, and water shut off when I return. Camping has different definations for all of us and since we are all "campers" we must understand what we all do. The availability of WiFi had exploaded in recent year. The service various a huge amount. Happy Camping.


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post Jan 29 2010, 09:47 AM
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I can understand why the full-timers and others want WIFI. Admittedly, it is nice to have to check weather, find things to do in the area, etc. On the flip-side, I understand why many (if not most) do not require WIFI access.

I think WIFI should be extra, pay for usage, but have a hotspot near the store, or rec room somewhere. This way, if you want it at your site, you can pay for it and have it, or you can run up to the rec room to do what you need to do real quick. A hotspot is easier to install and maintain rather than having good WIFI connection throughout the park, especially if it's a larger, spread out park.

My reasoning for this is, nothing is free. If they don't charge extra for connectivity, but offer it for "free," it's added to the cost for EVERYONE, including those who don't use it.

Asking for it for free would be like me asking for all five kids for free. Most CGs charge extra for anything more than the 2 adults and 2/3 kids. It wouldn't be fair for you to pay extra to cover the costs of me having more kids, and it wouldn't be fair for the campground to charge everyone extra for WIFI.

Just my two cents.


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post Jan 29 2010, 11:55 PM
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Hi grim509,

I've never agreed with extra charges for extra people. I'm a "one price" kind of guy. I don't use the meeting halls, and rarely use a pool--but I don't mind them being included in the price.

I'm fairly sure that running a pool of any size dwarfs the cost of wifi.


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post Mar 6 2010, 05:55 PM
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WiFi is nice to have but the security issue needs to be addressed- I have stayed at two capmp Grounds where it was a known fact that the manager snooped in on people's web browsing and read emails.( This took place at Serendipity RV Park in Palacious,Tx and Country Livin RV Park in Foley,Al.)
If there was a way to have internet/WiFi and have it be on a secure net it would be great.
By the way-
It is NEVER legal to snoop and read emails-EVER.All of the managers of RV Parks read the following-Snooping in on emails is a felony and is punishable by up to 5 years in prison with up to a 250,000. fine.

-Computer Crime (page 2) | National Notary Association
Explain that snooping in other people's e-mail may lead to civil and criminal ... "People don't expect their e-mail to be read by others, but e-mail lives on for a ...
www.nationalnotary.org/news/

Stored Electronic Communications Provisions of ECPA
<12> Access to electronic communications in storage comes under the Stored Electronic Communications provisions of the ECPA, which prohibits the unauthorized access to stored communications, such as electronic mail, and disclosure of the contents.16

Federal Wiretap Act
<10> Interceptions of electronic communications in “real time” come under the federal Wiretap Act. That Act provides that any person who intentionally intercepts an electronic communication is guilty of a felony and subject to a fine of up to $250,000 and imprisonment for up to five years ohmy.gif

All RV Park managers with WiFi read adn heed-Being a manager does NOT give you the right to snoop and read the email of those staying at your park.Not only is it wrong it can and will get you fined,put in jail and or sued.
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post Mar 7 2010, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(lucky2 @ Mar 6 2010, 05:55 PM) *

WiFi is nice to have but the security issue needs to be addressed- I have stayed at two capmp Grounds where it was a known fact that the manager snooped in on people's web browsing and read emails.( This took place at Serendipity RV Park in Palacious,Tx and Country Livin RV Park in Foley,Al.)
If there was a way to have internet/WiFi and have it be on a secure net it would be great.
By the way-
It is NEVER legal to snoop and read emails-EVER.All of the managers of RV Parks read the following-Snooping in on emails is a felony and is punishable by up to 5 years in prison with up to a 250,000. fine.

-Computer Crime (page 2) | National Notary Association
Explain that snooping in other people's e-mail may lead to civil and criminal ... "People don't expect their e-mail to be read by others, but e-mail lives on for a ...
www.nationalnotary.org/news/

Stored Electronic Communications Provisions of ECPA
<12> Access to electronic communications in storage comes under the Stored Electronic Communications provisions of the ECPA, which prohibits the unauthorized access to stored communications, such as electronic mail, and disclosure of the contents.16

Federal Wiretap Act
<10> Interceptions of electronic communications in “real time” come under the federal Wiretap Act. That Act provides that any person who intentionally intercepts an electronic communication is guilty of a felony and subject to a fine of up to $250,000 and imprisonment for up to five years ohmy.gif

All RV Park managers with WiFi read adn heed-Being a manager does NOT give you the right to snoop and read the email of those staying at your park.Not only is it wrong it can and will get you fined,put in jail and or sued.

I am curious just how the RV park accomplished this, and how you know. Such activity requires a fairly high degree of technical proficiency. Be aware, however, that the RV park does have some potential liability if guests of the park use their system to preform illegal activities. For example, if a guest downloaded child pornography over the park's wifi system, the park could face potential prosecution for distributing pornographic material. Legally, the park has the right and potentially even the obligation, to monitor and assure that it's server is not being used to conduct illegal activity. Also, businesses frequently monitor bandwidth usage to assure their users are not downloading large files that would slow down their system or are being accessed by computers that are distributing spam etc. There is a big difference between tracking the IP addresses and websites being accessed by computers on a server and reading the actual traffic being sent over that system. Many commercial WiFi systems have software that will alert the system owner when certain websites and certain types of traffic move over their server. Without further information, I would think this is the more likely scenario, not a wifi system owner reading actual traffic.
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