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post Oct 28 2014, 08:53 AM
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I read somewhere that surge protectors don't have enough joules of protection for a lightening strike; however, if Joez says it protected him.... I believe it. Maybe the surge protector sacrfices itself ?

Surge protectors that sacrifice are for surges that typically cause no damage due to superior protection already inside all appliances.

Do you assume surge protector means surge protection? That is word association or how junk science reasoning occurs. The word 'surge' is extremely subjective. Many anomalies addressed by say a Progressive are not surges. But are called surged by layman due to subjective reasoning.

Progressive addresses many anomalies found in campgrounds that really are not surges.

Listed were many anomalies including open neutral, frequency variation, brownout, reversed polarity, and lightning. Nothing protects from all Protectors that are adjacent to appliances do not claim to protect from any of them (are sacrificial to get the naive to promote them).

Many anomolies such as low voltage that can harm motorized appliances are addressed by the Progressive. Other units may or may not address many anomlies that occur in campgrounds. For example, the only protector that is a solution to lightning must be located at the pole - within feet of earth ground. But then that anomaly is not among the most common found in campgrounds.

Selection of a protector starts by defining each anomaly. Then obtaining a protector that actually claims to protect from that and your other listed anomalies. The word surge protector describes many completely different boxes that do completely different functions. Including boxes located adjacent to electronics that do virutally nothing but only enrich a manufacturer.
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post Oct 28 2014, 02:34 PM
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Surge protectors that sacrifice are for surges that typically cause no damage due to superior protection already inside all appliances.

Do you assume surge protector means surge protection? That is word association or how junk science reasoning occurs. The word 'surge' is extremely subjective. Many anomalies addressed by say a Progressive are not surges. But are called surged by layman due to subjective reasoning.

Progressive addresses many anomalies found in campgrounds that really are not surges.

Listed were many anomalies including open neutral, frequency variation, brownout, reversed polarity, and lightning. Nothing protects from all Protectors that are adjacent to appliances do not claim to protect from any of them (are sacrificial to get the naive to promote them).

Many anomolies such as low voltage that can harm motorized appliances are addressed by the Progressive. Other units may or may not address many anomlies that occur in campgrounds. For example, the only protector that is a solution to lightning must be located at the pole - within feet of earth ground. But then that anomaly is not among the most common found in campgrounds.

Selection of a protector starts by defining each anomaly. Then obtaining a protector that actually claims to protect from that and your other listed anomalies. The word surge protector describes many completely different boxes that do completely different functions. Including boxes located adjacent to electronics that do virutally nothing but only enrich a manufacturer.


Both Progressive and SurgeGuard (TRC) market two product lines. The lower end line consists of true surge suppressors that only protect against actual line surges, which, I agree, are not the real problem at most campgrounds. However, both companies also sell a higher end product line that should truly be called power management devices (or something like that) which protect against most of the faults you noted including low and high voltage, open neutral, reversed outlets, etc. Sloppy word usage often results in both product lines being called "surge suppressors" which they are not. As you have done here, I often try to clear up the confusion that results from lumping these together.


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