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Should Campgrounds Charge for WiFi?
Campground WiFi should:
be Free to entice more campers to the c/g [ 323 ] ** [78.59%]
be Free in the more "deluxe" sites [ 23 ] ** [5.60%]
be charged for on a per usage basis (recieve an access code at check in if paid for) [ 44 ] ** [10.71%]
be Charged for by an outside agency when loggin on [ 9 ] ** [2.19%]
not be a part of the camping experience (leave your technology at home) [ 12 ] ** [2.92%]
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post Jul 18 2008, 05:18 PM
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Should Campgrounds charge for Internet access?

I would like to get other opinions on this.

My opinion is no! I have two reasons for this.

First, as a consumer. Having free internet access is actually one of the things I look for in a campground. It's a 'perk' if you will. If I have the choice between two, somewhat comparable, c/g's then I will choose the one with free WiFi. Heck, I'll even choose the one with free WiFi over one that is slightly nicer with fee for service.

Second, as a business owner (of which I am one). It does not cost more to allow the whole campground access to your broadband service. The only additional expense is the addition of the hardware. In some cases this might be more expensive if additional antennas are required and installation requires an expert. Also, a higher than basic internet subscription is needed. However, if the c/g is going to charge for its WiFi service, then all of this has to be done anyway. Therefore, consider it a marketing expense to drive more people to your c/g. Why do you think that places like Panera Bread and even McDonald's are offering free WiFi? I know I choose to eat there when I need a place to surf while I eat. In my case, I want more people to come to my place of business, so I make my wireless service available to all. It costs me no more, but brings more people to me.

What do you think?

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post Feb 2 2013, 01:17 PM
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Doci - you are correct. At this time getting TV via the internet is problematic for "campers" for the most part. The big four wireless people make huge money owning their delivery systems and I don't see them going back to unlimited data with the exception of Sprint. And some have old Verizon unlimited plans, like me. So far I have not bothered to use my Verizon data plan to watch TV. I did test it out on one show, works well.

I am not sure this one Netflix show is a harbinger of the future. I don't think Netflix can afford it.

In a fixed location we have changed the way we watch TV at home. We mostly watch on demand shows from the HBO library and then year old stuff from Netflix. But on the road it is not so easy to get fast internet still.

QUOTE(docj @ Feb 2 2013, 10:45 AM) *

If you aren't already aware of it, yesterday Netflix put online an entire 13-episode new series entitled "House of Cards" starring Kevin Spacey. Although we have already watched the first two shows and have enjoyed them, the reason for this post is simply to point out that this event took place. It appears to be the first time an expensive show with a well-known cast has gone this route, bypassing the HBO, Showtime channels which would have been a more normal venue. Netflix is hinting that this may be only the first of a whole line of "made for streaming" TV content. What's made this even more unusual is that Netflix has made the entire series available at once, no waiting until next week to watch the next episode.

Of course, the implications of this to the entertainment industry are enormous. Essentially, a content provider (a movie producer) has bypassed the entire distribution system and is providing commercial-free content to those willing to pay the intermediary (Netflix) to stream it to them. It's the next logical step beyond the "on demand" process we have become accustomed to.

Once technological evolution like this begins it is hard to stuff the genie back in the bottle, so I expect, over time, we will see more of this not just by Netflix, but maybe also by Amazon and others. This has huge implications for internet providers, campground operators, etc, since it will stress the data-handling capacity of their networks. Sure, nothing has really changed since people can already stream video, but if first-run content becomes more available via streaming they are going to be frustrated if they discover they can't spend their weekend "camping" trip watching a marathon of their favorite shows episodes. Yet another problem for campground owners to wrestle with. As if the question of "free wifi" wasn't difficult enough to deal with on its own.

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drmcleod   Is It Ok To Charge For Wifi   Jul 18 2008, 05:18 PM
Lindsay Richards   We had another long debate about this a few months...   Jul 21 2008, 02:11 PM
jperera   We had another long debate about this a few month...   Jul 22 2008, 08:13 AM
tandiee   We have just returned from a 3+ month trip also. ...   Jul 22 2008, 08:51 AM
DXSMac   Free WiFi. YES! If you want the "campin...   Jul 21 2008, 02:34 PM
pianotuna   Hi JJ, Yes some State Parks do--for example Lewis...   Jul 21 2008, 09:24 PM
RLM   Yes, we've had this discussion. It is one of t...   Jul 21 2008, 07:43 PM
DXSMac   What I found interesting in the poll questions is...   Jul 21 2008, 10:06 PM
drmcleod   What I found interesting in the poll questions i...   Aug 21 2008, 10:16 AM
tandiee   Should Campgrounds charge for Internet access? I...   Jul 22 2008, 09:03 AM
kcmoedoe   "Free" WiFi is great, but remember it is...   Jul 22 2008, 11:03 AM
Lindsay Richards   The most expensive rate for Wi Fi was $15/day...   Jul 22 2008, 07:27 PM
pianotuna   Hi Lindsay, I decided I'd look at British Col...   Jul 22 2008, 10:14 PM
gilda   deleted   Jul 23 2008, 01:20 PM
Jon Juan   When I'm looking for RV Parks in a area if the...   Jul 23 2008, 02:40 PM
Lindsay Richards   We noticed that many campgrounds listed did not ...   Jul 23 2008, 08:43 PM
Lee and Fran   Heck all a park has to do is raise it rates a doll...   Jul 23 2008, 08:51 PM
kcmoedoe   Heck all a park has to do is raise it rates a dol...   Jul 27 2008, 10:20 AM
Kirk   The fact is that not all customers of the RV park ...   Aug 16 2008, 04:41 PM
pianotuna   Hi Kirk, So are you suggesting that toilets have ...   Aug 17 2008, 01:05 AM
BJMA   to provide WiFi access is dirt cheap and has a hig...   Jul 30 2008, 11:03 PM
Lindsay Richards   The buzzword I keep seeing is “WiFi available” mea...   Jul 31 2008, 02:26 PM
hypogi   As a former park owner I can tell you one thing fo...   Aug 2 2008, 04:05 PM
Lindsay Richards   Getting a good WiFi antenna is a must.   Aug 3 2008, 09:04 AM
pianotuna   Hi Lindsay, Any results with range testing on you...   Aug 3 2008, 09:39 AM
Lindsay Richards   I have not tested it in campgounds yet, but have...   Aug 4 2008, 11:55 AM
pianotuna   Hi, I just found another site that maps wifi eith...   Aug 9 2008, 08:50 AM
BigDadDogg   I can't leave the technology at home....my who...   Aug 14 2008, 12:57 PM
Texasrvers   I really can see both sides of this issue, and I d...   Aug 17 2008, 12:05 PM
Kirk   Hi Kirk, So are you suggesting that toilets have...   Aug 17 2008, 03:42 PM
pianotuna   Hi Kirk, I have traveled a bit as you may see fro...   Aug 17 2008, 07:28 PM
kcmoedoe   I agree McDonalds is a bad example. Very few peop...   Aug 22 2008, 03:30 PM
pianotuna   Hi, A $75.00 omni directional antenna would ...   Aug 22 2008, 06:25 PM
Lindsay Richards   I usually try to talk with the owners or staff abo...   Aug 23 2008, 12:56 PM
Kirk   pianotuna, I don't understand why a different...   Aug 23 2008, 06:04 PM
pianotuna   Hi Kirk, I believe there are not 16 channels in u...   Aug 23 2008, 08:00 PM
Lindsay Richards   On the other hand, if you park near me and take th...   Aug 24 2008, 05:19 PM
Kirk   On the other hand, if you park near me and take t...   Aug 26 2008, 05:13 PM
Lindsay Richards   Sorry, I misread you statement about sharing the...   Aug 26 2008, 08:38 PM
kcmoedoe   Sharing a password that you obtained for a fee is ...   Aug 25 2008, 03:12 PM
pianotuna   Hi kcmoedoe, Kirk has his own internet system and...   Aug 25 2008, 03:17 PM
Texasrvers   kcmoedoe, You are absolutely right about someone ...   Aug 25 2008, 03:29 PM
kcmoedoe   My apologies, I completely missed the fact that it...   Aug 25 2008, 03:31 PM
Joe-n-Doe   While I think it makes good business sense to offe...   Aug 25 2008, 04:21 PM
Just Jack   I am a owner of a RV park and have read through mo...   Aug 30 2008, 02:24 PM
pianotuna   Hi Jack, Which costs the campground owner more? ...   Aug 31 2008, 01:24 AM
Lindsay Richards   That was me. The owner had a cable modem and a ...   Aug 31 2008, 10:02 PM
kcmoedoe   Internet security is much more complicated than a ...   Sep 1 2008, 10:49 AM
Lindsay Richards   I have an attached keyboard (not wireless), Norton...   Sep 1 2008, 03:09 PM
DXSMac   Just a note about Norton. A friend of mine has No...   Sep 1 2008, 05:12 PM
kcmoedoe   Lindsay, what I am talking about is security can b...   Sep 2 2008, 10:35 PM
Lindsay Richards   So does the average campground out there that we a...   Sep 3 2008, 03:51 PM
kcmoedoe   You are much more likely to be robbed by a mugger ...   Sep 3 2008, 06:19 PM
Texasrvers   This is for kcmoedoe and Lindsay: KC, I have real...   Sep 3 2008, 09:25 PM
Lindsay Richards   We too use the automatic debit, but many don't...   Sep 4 2008, 03:44 PM
Texasrvers   Lindsay, Your banking procedures--auto debit, two ...   Sep 4 2008, 06:14 PM
kcmoedoe   Texasrvers, It is technically possible for your co...   Sep 4 2008, 06:19 PM
Texasrvers   kcmoedoe, Thanks for the info. We already follow ...   Sep 4 2008, 06:33 PM
DXSMac   Actually, after thinking again..... I would be wil...   Sep 4 2008, 10:25 PM
Lindsay Richards   Actually. my wife's credit card was stolen las...   Sep 6 2008, 10:53 AM
DXSMac   Actually. my wife's credit card was stolen la...   Sep 6 2008, 10:56 AM
Lindsay Richards   Well, you are only responsible for the first ...   Sep 8 2008, 07:57 AM
DXSMac   I was trying to be funny there. SORRY! I g...   Sep 8 2008, 01:47 PM
Doraville   I think that WiFi has become as important as power...   Sep 16 2008, 06:03 AM
DXSMac   The best way to encourage the campgrounds to upg...   Sep 16 2008, 11:38 AM
bikemanb   I have no problem with a $1 per day fee, many...   Sep 21 2008, 09:01 PM
DXSMac   I have no problem with a $1 per day fee, man...   Sep 21 2008, 09:37 PM
westernrvparkowner   I own a medium sized RV park and include wifi acce...   Sep 16 2008, 11:28 AM
FosterImposters   [quote name='westernrvparkowner' post='13217' date...   Oct 2 2008, 12:19 PM
westernrvparkowner   Got a real eye-opener on this topic when helpin...   Oct 2 2008, 03:13 PM
Just Jack   [quote name='westernrvparkowner' date=...   Oct 4 2008, 02:15 PM
Kirk   westernrvparkowner, Thanks for posting your exper...   Oct 2 2008, 06:17 PM
DXSMac   Kirk, asking to use YOUR satellite signal is just ...   Oct 2 2008, 07:09 PM
pianotuna   Hi JJ, I might offer to pay for bandwidth--but I...   Oct 4 2008, 11:10 AM
pianotuna   Hi Just Jack, Welcome to the forum--it is very va...   Oct 4 2008, 10:46 PM
taj4256   Clearly there is expense to the campground to prov...   Oct 5 2008, 12:03 AM
kcmoedoe   Hi Pianotuna, Just a couple of thoughts. I would ...   Oct 5 2008, 12:14 PM
pianotuna   Hi kcmoedoe, Having had an "almost" son...   Oct 5 2008, 12:46 PM
lbacon   We believe that wifi should be FREE. We also are d...   Oct 7 2008, 12:09 PM
Parkview   We believe that wifi should be FREE. We also are ...   Oct 8 2008, 05:57 PM
DXSMac   We believe that wifi should be FREE. We also are ...   Oct 8 2008, 07:03 PM
drmcleod   We use the Sprint Novatel S720 broadband card (E...   Nov 24 2008, 12:46 PM
pianotuna   Hi, Look at cradlepoint routers: http://www.crad...   Nov 25 2008, 11:12 PM
Lindsay Richards   How do you handle getting the cable from the ext...   Oct 7 2008, 03:15 PM
pianotuna   Hi JJ, They are just campers with an unlimited ai...   Oct 21 2008, 10:04 PM
Spinsister1   Sprint does not offer an UNLIMITED Bandwidth produ...   Oct 22 2008, 11:05 AM
pianotuna   Hi Spinsister1, Sasktel does offer unlimited data...   Oct 23 2008, 10:17 PM
DXSMac   I think, for air cards, Sprint and Verizon are the...   Oct 22 2008, 12:52 PM
KevinBurns   I'm not a park owner, but if I was I would con...   Oct 23 2008, 12:44 AM
Lindsay Richards   We are sitting right now in a very nice water fron...   Oct 23 2008, 01:36 PM
Doug un Bermuda   I do not have access to the internet through Veriz...   Oct 23 2008, 09:57 PM
westernrvparkowner   Just a minor note, if you use a wireless router in...   Nov 26 2008, 03:17 PM
FosterImposters   Well, well...that explains a couple snafus we...   Nov 26 2008, 03:50 PM
pianotuna   Hi Western, Well why not change your campground w...   Nov 29 2008, 10:40 PM
westernrvparkowner   Hi Western, Well why not change your campground ...   Nov 30 2008, 01:08 AM
pianotuna   Hi Western, Why not run the site survey before ha...   Nov 30 2008, 02:41 AM
westernrvparkowner   Hi Western, Why not run the site survey before h...   Nov 30 2008, 02:47 PM
HappiestCamper   Buy about 10 cheap used laptops. Advertise that fr...   Dec 3 2008, 11:01 AM
BootStrap   I have stayed at parks with free Wifi and horrible...   Nov 29 2008, 05:26 PM
Pinegrove1   Hello, we just installed satellite Wifi system in ...   Jan 9 2009, 04:45 PM
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