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joez
post Sep 28 2013, 08:53 AM
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why do I have to pay if I want to use the campground showers?


Which raises the old argument about charging via a menu of services. In seven plus years of traveling at least six months per, we have used a campground shower once and it is likely we never will again. Why do we have to pay for hot water for your shower included in our lot rent? As impractical as it would be, wouldn't it be nice to be able to pay for only those services actually used?
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post Sep 28 2013, 09:19 AM
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Yet the cost of "renting" a camper/RV site is usually substantially more than a "tent" site without hookups. We have used campground showers rarely since getting our TT, but it just irks me to have to pay to use the shower after paying so much for our campsite.

I have heard the reasons campgrounds have for charging for showers, it is just one of my "pet peeves".



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TheTravelingCo
post Oct 2 2013, 03:03 PM
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Newbie here-

I have really enjoyed reading the discussions in this thread. Furthermore, I REALLY appreciate this site as it has kept me from going to some really bad CG's/parks, etc. My initial thoughts are the "live and let live" mentality but it should in my opinion start with the people that offer spaces.....Owners/hosts/managers.

I have lived full time in my MH with my children and dogs for 365 days now so I consider myself a mildly seasoned fulltimer. I have also seen that fulltimers get treated like parasites no matter how nice your rig is or how well behaved you are. I originally bought my rig to travel and see the US and NOT see pains in the rear people. I have encountered more times than not, horrible RV parks but not because of the neighbors, their dogs, kids or trash......MANAGEMENT. My expectations are some what unrealistic though so lets keep that in mind as I complain.

FALSE ADVERTISING-

"We have free wifi!" Another poster pointed this out it is only free because they cant offer it for a price. It's not like its that hard to control, I spend a lot of time at RV parks having to maintain their internet for guests just so I can get access. I have had to sit at the office (not my cup of tea) and use the internet. Not digging the wifi that parks offer and I feel when they advertise it I am paying for it in the fees just like a hotel.

PET FRIENDLY/PET TOLERABLE-

If it were pet friendly, you would understand that small, I mean very small breeds cant hold it to walk the half a mile to the dog park that is usually flooded with other dogs poop anyway. I have no desire to let mine go far off to do their business taking the chance that they cant hold it til we get there and then make the neighbors mad because 17 other dogs liked their yard too even if we pick it up. Let us poop at home!

KIDS-

I have never had a problem with kids except one park where kids thought we lived in cave man days and they had no toys other than the gravel to throw at MY CAR! If your kid is off YOUR site and acting like no sane adult is around, I will have no problem saying HEY, THATS MY CAR CAN YOU PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE?! I generally like kids in parks because I have them and gives them a sense of community of their own.

MY SQUARE FOOT NOT YOURS-

I have paid for this spot, I dont appreciate this mentality that park owners seem to have (that I have been to anyway) of NO REFUNDS. If I pay for a month in advance and say you offer a swimming pool year round and you close it for the month I am there I feel I have the right to ask for a refund, am due it and can leave. But these park owners act like they are militant that YOU follow the rules but they dont have to offer just simple customer service. I have no problem with neighbors entertainment centers, parties, I have teenagers I can sleep through anything. But if say Mr and Mrs. Retired people have a problem with it, why not offer them to move into the quiet side of the park, know your people. I personally don't allow anything outside my RV as I do not want to portray a trailer trash look but if someone else does....I dont care. I dont care if your dog comes and poops in my yard, it would be cool if you pick it up but if you dont and its not the size of a large rat Im the neighbor that wont complain. I dont complain when your website offers services you "used" to offer but dont anymore yet you raised your rates. I do however complain when you charge me something that was there the day I signed in but somewhere on the path to the park making a buck they took it away but forgot like the government has taught them that they dont owe me a dime back for me loosing the service.

FINALLY-

Breathe-

I will continue to travel and I will continue to try to "live and let live" but I will also try to point it out to the owners that have this NO REFUNDS policy like a cheap motel that we are people too!


Thanks for letting me vent!
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post Oct 2 2013, 04:14 PM
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Welcome The Traveling Company. I have a couple of things that caught my attention in your posting.

If dogs go to the bathroom in your site and you are there for a month or more the smell does tend to get a bit rough sometimes for the other people around you. We don't have a problem with letting your dog potty in your yard on occasion but we do have a problem with people not cleaning it up or letting their dog go to the bathroom in your site. I will take issue with anyone that does that when staying with us. Usually the ones that don't clean up behind their dog is someone that doesn't bother putting their dog on a leash even though that rule is for the safety of your dog and others.

Also if you rent an apartment on a monthly basis they do not refund you so why do you think a CG should refund your money when you move out before your month is over?

Sometimes what seems an easy fix to you on the WiFi may not be an easy fix for the CG. We offer it here free and it is good for every campsite. There have been a few times when there was a problem with it and it was the provider and not us that is the problem. Our WiFi rarely ever goes down and we have gone down, in the middle of the night, to reset it to be sure people can get online. We do the best we can to make sure everything works.
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post Oct 2 2013, 05:43 PM
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I have read the forums here for a long time before posting and realized one thing.....if I were going to ask for an opinion of a park manager it would be you. So kudos to you for being the type of person that catches my attention with a level head.

My dogs are so tiny, specially bred, that they dont have poop you can see without a special microscope....my dogs are all under 4lbs. So it would make sense that their guts cant hang til the dog park so they are pad trained but even at that, they still like a good 30 mins in the sun. Doing that with their bladders means they have to pee pee 7 times in that 30 mins. LOL Territory go figure. If it does not smell in my house where they pee and poop several times a day how can it smell in the grass? My final statement about the dogs are, what is "occasional"? If the manager has a bad day is THAT the day that occasional is subjective?


In an apartment, if they dont fix something I can deduct it from the rent and they have to fix it. Landlord tenant laws apply to us too!! If you decide that you want to charge us for power, and water and chose not to pay your bill and we do without why is that a reason to put it on us? Im just saying, you sound like a reasonable person but you have competitors that ARE NOT and have shown their rears time and time again. When you do me that way thats one thing, Im jaded and I complain but when I see a history of it for many, many Rv'rs, it's time to do something. Don't worry, I will find the good people in the midst as I always have. I know they are there but right now because people dont know their rights, they are few and far between.

As far as the wifi, I wouldn't have EVER bothered getting an account on here to vent, if not for the fact that CG's religiously place "free wifi" symbols on their website if I have not encountered the problems country wide, I would have thought it to be me. Apparently its not.

Thank you SO MUCH for your help, I do very much appreciate your response as I figured I would not get one. But curious, what amount of 365 days in a year do you spend at the risk of CG owners, or RV parks? Not including who you work for.

Ive watched your posts for a while and do respect your position so please dont think for one minute that I will write you off and your opinion.

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post Oct 3 2013, 03:58 PM
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Thank you for your kind words.

We lived in our RV for about 9 years full time, not even a home base anywhere so everything we owned traveled with us. We have been in many campgrounds and dealt with many types of management. That's one reason I try to be as fair as possible. There are things I would do differently here if I owned the park but we have managed this place for 4 1/2 years and I'm often in the middle between campers and owners.

We travel with cats and we don't smell their litter box but anyone coming to visit can smell it even though I am almost freakish about keeping it clean. We did have some people here recently that had a site that stunk from letting their dog go right outside. I probably have one of the least sensitive noses of anyone (can't even smell dead skunk) and yet I could smell the urine around their RV.

We do have a few rules here that I don't necessarily agree with but I am obligated to see that everyone complies with them. The majority of the rules I really enforce are the ones that are common courtesy and it is amazing how many people feel that no rule applies to them.
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post Oct 3 2013, 04:35 PM
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I can tell that you are probably always trying to keep the peace. I will be heading out again for another year in a couple of months, am down right now til I get some repairs done. I hope the park I am in now does not change a thing because from what I can tell things are very, very nice. I hope that when we travel next year I will take what I have learned the last 12 months and apply to the future.

1. If at all possible pay for a month somewhere, over the course of a year you cant imagine how much money was wasted on stopping for a few days here and there when we could have covered so much more ground for a lot less doing it this way. However, I dont like being treated like a parasite because I am a "monthly".

2. ALWAYS read the reviews on this site before making a decision.

3. NEVER let them park me by the dog run.....talk about the hassle of my tiny dogs getting the small dog mentality going off with every Tom, Dick and Harry that walks their dogs...lol

4. Im going to do my homework and find out the reason for this NO REFUNDS thing and how to get around it because I stayed at a AOK that is well known for kicking you out if you complain about the services not working and yup, they asked me to leave and did not get a refund. If it werent for having a teen on board I would probably never stay at a park, only private land owners land but she needs the social life....go figure. That NO REFUNDS thing is probably my biggest pet peeve. The fact that they dont have to evict you like a normal landlord, they dont have to give you what you paid for the best you can hope for is leaving a review warning others and saving them the headache. Would love to hear your feed back on this part.
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