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BigNuge
post Jul 29 2013, 03:07 PM
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I have been camping for a while now (my whole life, I'm 36). This year I graduated from tent camping to a 23' HTT. My wife bailed on tent camping 10 years ago, its been friends & family until we got the camper.

Since we have been camping (locally in New England) so much more this year (compared to the last 10 years) I am really noticing some things.

1, When did we get invaded by Quebec??? The folks seem nice enough, I just see such a strong population of them everywhere I go! I really need to dust off my French...lol biggrin.gif
2, For the life of me I cannot find the attraction/appeal of the "parking lot" style of campground. Aren't we all camping to be in the woods with nature?? Ya know, trees, vegetation, dirt roads etc??? Some of these parks (one right down the road from me) get great reviews?!?!?! I just don't get the appeal. dry.gif
3, Wow....it is not cheap to camp anymore! It is easy to see $40-$60/night for 2 adults?!?! $10/head after that, with a limit of 6 per site. My very last trip cost me $230.00 for 3 nights w 6 people...Why the heck do they make campers that sleep more than 6 then?!?! Mine sleeps 10!!! wink.gif
4, Beware of the websites for campgrounds. While I have not had a terrible experience (yet), I have had to change plans due to the conditions at one of our latest campgrounds.
5, Doesn't anyone enjoy getting back to basics/nature? I know this statement could be cliche seeing as I am enjoying my brand new RV. However, I am not sitting on my phone/tablet/FB surfing the internet. Isn't camping supposed to be an experience with the environment/nature?!?!? I just cant come to terms with the reviews that complain heavily about WiFi signal/access. unsure.gif (Workamping folks aside obviously).

Things were so different 20 years ago....

Thats all for now smile.gif



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post Sep 1 2013, 05:37 PM
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"Different strokes for different folks" is missing a variable. Now days, money out does some strokes for some folks.

My wife and I are in a 50's. I stopped camping along time ago because what appeared to be a trend in the way people camped. I use to tent camp long long time ago before RVs were the big thing. They were around but the campsites were geared towards tent campers. Most people who had money wouldn't/couldn't do anything as disgusting as 'camp', out in the wilderness, for God sakes. And with that we were all on a level playing field. Going camping was fun. Nature was beautiful. We all helped each other and it was fun to meet new people around a camp fire.

Then came the campers, RV are what the are called. They are not campers they are Recreation Vehicles. With them all the comforts of home. Now those who wouldn't/couldn't camp were taking up the places that basic people only did for fun. Now it is a mobile hotel stop and they will back right over a tent in a second for that hotel spot.

My wife and I decided we were going to try camping again. We are older so a few amenities would be nice. Running water, electricity for a fan in the summer, small things. We even bought a tent to see if we would like it before I modify a utility trailer to be our camper. That's right, modify a utility trailer to be a camper, because we can't afford a real camper. We were afraid that things might be as I thought they were so we decide we would go to the campsites in the area on this Labor day Weekend and see what we could see. UNBELIEVABLE. Campers, sorry, RV upon RV, people stacked 2 feet apart. Some even had their tables in the street. This was at three different 'campgrounds'.

I remembered along time ago a book you could by that listed all the campgrounds. Now I see that is gone and a new book has taken its place, one dedicated to RV's. THey say they are for campgrounds but it is really dedicated to RV Resorts.

Now we did find a couple hidden state and local campgrounds where camping is still camping. But, are you people serious? What is the point? Those with big rigs, pull up throw up the satellite antenna, get the big screen tv hooked up under your canopy, and then go inside and leave it playing with no one watching some football game or other sporting event. AC and generators running full blast, not a soul insight. Bicycles everywhere with no one on them.

I am sorry but it looked like a zoo.

If this is camping, we may need to think again. A fun family activity has been ruined all because of money, just like so many other things in this life. Money and commercialism.
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post Sep 1 2013, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(cwcsmc @ Sep 1 2013, 05:37 PM) *

I registered with this forum to specifically reply to this posting.

"Different strokes for different folks" is missing a variable. Now days, money out does some strokes for some folks.

My wife and I are in a 50's. I stopped camping along time ago because what appeared to be a trend in the way people camped. I use to tent camp long long time ago before RVs were the big thing. They were around but the campsites were geared towards tent campers. Most people who had money wouldn't/couldn't do anything as disgusting as 'camp', out in the wilderness, for God sakes. And with that we were all on a level playing field. Going camping was fun. Nature was beautiful. We all helped each other and it was fun to meet new people around a camp fire.

Then came the campers, RV are what the are called. They are not campers they are Recreation Vehicles. With them all the comforts of home. Now those who wouldn't/couldn't camp were taking up the places that basic people only did for fun. Now it is a mobile hotel stop and they will back right over a tent in a second for that hotel spot.

My wife and I decided we were going to try camping again. We are older so a few amenities would be nice. Running water, electricity for a fan in the summer, small things. We even bought a tent to see if we would like it before I modify a utility trailer to be our camper. That's right, modify a utility trailer to be a camper, because we can't afford a real camper. We were afraid that things might be as I thought they were so we decide we would go to the campsites in the area on this Labor day Weekend and see what we could see. UNBELIEVABLE. Campers, sorry, RV upon RV, people stacked 2 feet apart. Some even had their tables in the street. This was at three different 'campgrounds'.

I remembered along time ago a book you could by that listed all the campgrounds. Now I see that is gone and a new book has taken its place, one dedicated to RV's. THey say they are for campgrounds but it is really dedicated to RV Resorts.

Now we did find a couple hidden state and local campgrounds where camping is still camping. But, are you people serious? What is the point? Those with big rigs, pull up throw up the satellite antenna, get the big screen tv hooked up under your canopy, and then go inside and leave it playing with no one watching some football game or other sporting event. AC and generators running full blast, not a soul insight. Bicycles everywhere with no one on them.

I am sorry but it looked like a zoo.

If this is camping, we may need to think again. A fun family activity has been ruined all because of money, just like so many other things in this life. Money and commercialism.

Oh well, guess RVing isn't for you. Kind of like I wouldn't spend 6 seconds of my life watching soccer, but would spend tens of thousands for a seat at the Super Bowl should my favorite team be a participant. On the flip side there is some silly Brit who would toss a Super Bowl ticket in the trash, but would do anything to get into a Premier Finals game (if that is what they call the superbowl of English Soccer). Hey you gave it try, wasn't for you, time to move on. Good luck with whatever your future entertainment endeavors are.
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QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ Sep 1 2013, 09:46 PM) *

Oh well, guess RVing isn't for you. Kind of like I wouldn't spend 6 seconds of my life watching soccer, but would spend tens of thousands for a seat at the Super Bowl should my favorite team be a participant. On the flip side there is some silly Brit who would toss a Super Bowl ticket in the trash, but would do anything to get into a Premier Finals game (if that is what they call the superbowl of English Soccer). Hey you gave it try, wasn't for you, time to move on. Good luck with whatever your future entertainment endeavors are.


You missed the point, and since you would spend 'thousands' for a football game it is obvious you would.

Let me ask you, you already would spend thousands for a game, would you still go if they stopped you from bring drinks in with you and make you pay an arm and a leg for theirs (oh wait they do that), what if the stopped your wife from bringing her purse (they do that too), what if they basically stripped searched you, (hmm, they do that too) what if they decided to do away with the seats and make everyone stand because they would make more money. What if there were so many people you couldn't see the game? Would you still go?

You are absolutely right, RV'ing is not for me. Camping is. The problem is RV'ers have taken over the activity of camping and left those who enjoyed that activity with nothing left. Funny thing is the only reason RV'ers can do what they do is because of money. It is not about their ability to actually ENJOY the outdoors. More than likely if the money was taken away the RV parks would be empty, and the true campers would come back.

Anyway, I went this past holiday weekend on purpose. I wanted to see the worst case scenario. That was disturbing. All those people jammed on top of each other and they called that fun?

I wish that there could be a clear distinction between a real 'campground' and an RV Park. I suppose though, not many RV'rs would show up if the advertised for the best RV Parking Lot around, as apposed to trying to pretend it is a campground.

Maybe one day RV'ers will realize they can't see the football game anymore and leave the area to those who would truly enjoy the stadium empty.
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post Sep 2 2013, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(cwcsmc @ Sep 2 2013, 01:11 PM) *

The problem is RV'ers have taken over the activity of camping and left those who enjoyed that activity with nothing left. Funny thing is the only reason RV'ers can do what they do is because of money. It is not about their ability to actually ENJOY the outdoors. More than likely if the money was taken away the RV parks would be empty, and the true campers would come back.


I'm sorry you have such a judgmental view of people that you lump all RVers into one category. I can assure you that many of us enjoy being outdoors even though we may choose to cook and sleep in our RVs. IMHO it's not about money, we've been RVing since we bought our first popup when our kids were young. Believe me that wasn't a luxurious unit and didn't cost anywhere close to what the van did that was pulling it. Some of us simply make choices that are different than yours are; that's what living in a democracy is all about.


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BigNuge   The Future Of "camping"   Jul 29 2013, 03:07 PM
Dutch_12078   Many of us often choose campgrounds for their amen...   Jul 29 2013, 07:38 PM
docj   Many of us often choose campgrounds for their ame...   Jul 29 2013, 09:29 PM
John S.   Sometimes I want nature and sometime I jst want to...   Jul 30 2013, 05:06 AM
Tom   BigNuge, is this your first year in a "camper...   Jul 30 2013, 06:22 AM
Dutch_12078   Joel, I listed the various amenities that many of ...   Jul 30 2013, 07:11 AM
BigNuge   The rolling hotel room makes sense. If folks are s...   Jul 30 2013, 07:15 AM
docj   When I read a CG review that hammers on a CG for ...   Jul 30 2013, 09:11 PM
kcmoedoe   . I am just shaking my head at how different ever...   Jul 31 2013, 10:01 AM
Fitzjohnfan   Bignug, I'd like to agree with you, that thing...   Jul 31 2013, 12:37 AM
KFS   At the risk of sounding uppity let me point out ...   Aug 1 2013, 07:41 AM
John S.   Never thought if it as a reverse camping but I do ...   Aug 2 2013, 12:28 PM
BigNuge   I love the comments!! Unfortunately they s...   Aug 5 2013, 09:13 AM
jim crowl   I've been "camping" for over 50 year...   Aug 11 2013, 08:59 PM
QueenofQuitealot   Well, in the words of Sly Stone "Different st...   Aug 11 2013, 09:22 PM
rkw99   Whenever I talk about our RV trips, I refer to it ...   Aug 13 2013, 01:58 PM
RFCN2   Private campgrounds must be far cheeper out here i...   Aug 13 2013, 10:19 PM
docj   In general we agree with your observations about c...   Aug 15 2013, 03:48 PM
cwcsmc   I registered with this forum to specifically reply...   Sep 1 2013, 05:37 PM
kcmoedoe   I registered with this forum to specifically repl...   Sep 1 2013, 08:46 PM
cwcsmc   Oh well, guess RVing isn't for you. Kind of ...   Sep 2 2013, 11:11 AM
docj   The problem is RV'ers have taken over the act...   Sep 2 2013, 11:28 AM
cwcsmc   I'm sorry you have such a judgmental view of ...   Sep 2 2013, 01:25 PM
JDOLLEN   Greetings CMCSMC, ...   Sep 3 2013, 10:28 PM
mdcamping   Hi cwcsmc You talked about visiting campsites L...   Sep 2 2013, 08:39 AM
Tom   cwcsmc, there are a lot of campgrounds primarily g...   Sep 2 2013, 02:25 PM
dalsgal   cwcsmc I understand you like camping your way but...   Sep 2 2013, 02:41 PM
Texasrvers   cwcsmc, I think most of us understand your point, ...   Sep 2 2013, 02:52 PM
Dutch_12078   First of all, I'm an ardent RV'er, often s...   Sep 2 2013, 03:08 PM
Texasrvers   Just thought of Corps of Engineer parks. Many of ...   Sep 2 2013, 03:25 PM
dalsgal   http://www.tentcampingpass.com/index.aspx   Sep 2 2013, 04:06 PM
Lindsay Richards   If I slept on the ground like I used to when we to...   Sep 2 2013, 04:20 PM
cwcsmc   This will be my last post here. I did not come her...   Sep 2 2013, 05:23 PM
kcmoedoe   This will be my last post here. I did not come he...   Sep 2 2013, 06:18 PM
mdcamping   I know all about the limited camp areas for tents...   Sep 2 2013, 08:05 PM
Tom   Wow. Well, I'll be polite anyways - good luck...   Sep 2 2013, 06:13 PM
docj   I find it sad when the concept of "tolerance ...   Sep 2 2013, 09:55 PM
laringrp   I find the comments posted by cwcsmc to be quite s...   Sep 2 2013, 10:55 PM
jamarynn1   I find the comments posted by cwcsmc to be quite ...   Sep 3 2013, 12:36 AM
ThreeTravellingBlondes   Camping is alive and well. We keep a tent and extr...   Sep 3 2013, 01:00 AM
Tom   Those "hellacious holiday weekends" are ...   Sep 3 2013, 06:04 AM
nedmtnman   We all have our idea of camping. I DO NOT camp. I ...   Sep 3 2013, 08:52 AM
mdcamping   We all have our idea of camping. I DO NOT camp. I...   Sep 3 2013, 08:34 PM
SASMITH   We used to call it "camping" when we use...   Oct 20 2013, 09:08 PM
NorthernIllinoisPlumber   We used to call it "camping" when we us...   Oct 22 2013, 06:45 PM
jamarynn1   Not ripping on you, but is it really an escape if...   Oct 23 2013, 12:05 AM
NorthernIllinoisPlumber   Yes, it is still an escape for me, even with the ...   Oct 23 2013, 04:49 PM
Dutch_12078   We don't consider traveling in our motorhome ...   Oct 22 2013, 07:31 PM
dodge guy   The last time I did a state park campground my dog...   Nov 28 2013, 01:58 PM


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