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RL36
I was on my way to Atlanta from Charlotte on wednesday for business. I decided to drive to save the Atlanta airport headache.I stopped at the Flying J in Blacksburg,SC on my way there,got gas in my honda accord at $2.93 a gallon the next day I returned home and stopped at the same Flying J and gas was $3.06 a gallon "WHY" mad.gif . When I pulled up to pump my gas an RV was getting gas next to me,I struck up a conversation with him and his wife and they were retired.He was telling me that they were going to have to park there RV and put there retirement on hold for a while becouse the fuel costs are so high. He was telling me that he had a conversation at a truck stop a few days before that with a truckdriver who said he cant afford to stay in business anymore becouse of such high fuel costs and that guy told him that alot of truckers are going to sell or even walk away from there trucks ohmy.gif . He was telling me that that truckdriver could make more money with less stress by working at a local fast food joint. This looks really scary sad.gif and theres no light at the end of this long dark tunnel,so how high does it have to get before you park your RV and not drive it?
John Blue
Welcome to hard times and high prices at the pump. We live close to the Lazy Days in Seffner, FL with a Flying-J next door. Number days ago I past by the Flying-J and found no let up in the number on high dollar RV units moving in and out of the fuel pumps. Couple more days later, found the same action again and diesel was $3.69 with pump gas $3.17. I did not see any small units at pumps over three days, only the big boys.

High fuel cost get in everyones pockets very soon. I sent in order for solar tubes from AZ. Shipping should be around $35 now cost $150 due to high fuel prices. All truck shipping will go up also think about all the stuff you buy from your local (Wal-Mart China) store. Ships also use diesel fuel by the tons per day to get the "lead" over here. Now cost me more to travel over overseas plus our ship cruiser's.

I can understand the truck drivers and high cost and if I had one I would also sell it and find a new line of work if you can find a new jobs now. I been around the trucking business and it is no fun.

We have had 35 years to fix the oil problems but oil companies and our government have made tons of dollars to date with no help yet. I see no light in the tunnel from overseas oil. Next we all will be looking at oil from the French fry tables to use.

As to park or go RV's, everyone will need to see how this will woks out. The big boys will run and I think the part time people will drop out for now. We found this same problem years ago in New Orleans, lots of people were turning back home due to 10 cent per gal. price increase in gas.

Jerry S
I you haven't already seen it, check out the thread I mistakenly put under The Campground section of the the Forum. It should have been here under General Chat. It is a POLL about RV usage and the effect of gas prices. Currently, according to the poll results, 70% of the respondents are not reducing their RV usage yet. Additionally, the majority travel less than 10,000 miles per year. So, for many, a dollar increase in fuel costs increases your annual cost of RV use by less than $1,000. This varies, of course, with what your RV is (towable up to big rig) and your annual mileage. A pickup towing a TT travelling 2,000 miles a year may may spend may spend an additional $3-400, but a big rig doing 20,000 miles may spend an extra $5,000.

One would think that somebody with rig that costs $200,000 or more would not be economically challenged by a couple extra grand a year in operation costs. As I noted in the first post of the aforementioned POLL, some will have to alter their travel plans (mileage or lenght of trip) to offset the increased fuel costs. I am one of those.

By the way, as I was returning from a trip to New England shortly after Katrina in 2005, I experienced a price increase of more than $0.50 a gallon in 2 days. The oil companies used that disaster to get billions in unwarranted profits for several weeks.
RL36
mad.gif Ive always said our government needs to force the oil companies to lower fuel prices and whatch the american peaples confidence soar,and it would stimulate our economy way more than a stupid check for $300 or $600 dollars that most peaple are going to put towards paying a bill..If our useless president blink.gif and useless congress blink.gif really cared about us than they would fight tooth and nail to get it done. Oh wait congress is probably on vacation and the president is planning what he is going to do with all that free time come january!!!!! sad.gif
Beastdriver
RL36: I could not agree with you more. This country is like a giant cruise ship--once we decide to turn, it will take miles to slow down and actually make the turn. Meantime, we get farther and farther behind, lose more and more businesses, have higher and higher unemployment, see our so-called friends shafting us right and left, and so forth. Yet, we keep sending the same crooks back to Washington again and again. What's wrong with this picture? Us.
RL36
mad.gif When you keep repeating the same nonsence over and over again its called insanity. How many times does our government blink.gif have to hit there heads against a wall to finally figure out,"DAMN that hurts" (our country).
DXSMac
I am frustrated by the high prices ($3.27 and climing in NW Washington, because we have a freaking high gas tax!!!!).

The only way to FORCE the issue is to find, AND QUICK!, some alternative fuel sources. Find a cheaper way to fuel our vehicles, and the oil companies will change their tune.

JJ
Silvana
I wish we had your gas prices. I'm in California at the moment, gas is $3.49 to $3.59 for reg unleaded! ohmy.gif
rodman
QUOTE(Silvana @ Mar 9 2008, 09:02 AM) *

I wish we had your gas prices. I'm in California at the moment, gas is $3.49 to $3.59 for reg unleaded! ohmy.gif


Don't forget diesel at over 3.75 a gallon. well over $100 to fill my truck. A trip to Monterey will cost me about $150 in fuel and $75 a night at the RV park. I won't be going much as long as this last's.
Big Ben
Diesel at the Petro Truck Stop in Ft Myers was $3.95 yesterday. Just checked the Flying J site and there are a number of places over $4. I would doubt many of us will ever see it down again. Oil companies have had their people in power for some time now and we are going to live with the results.
Back in 1995 when I started full timing . I beleive the average miles per year was 8000, so it really has not change all that much if that was correct.

When you keep repeating the same nonsence over and over again its called insanity. How many times does our government have to hit there heads against a wall to finally figure out,"DAMN that hurts"

It is not their head that is hitting the wall, it is ours. Than ask the same question.
RL36
mad.gif Ok,so who is in bed with the oil company's? And why doesn't our president and government do something about what is going on with these prices?Are they blind,do they not see whats going on with the housing market also,do they see as a country we are really really hurting sad.gif ,but they alow this to go spiraling out of control,someone has to wake up and stop the bleeding! I also heard it cheaper to refine diesel that it is gas,so if that is true the oil company's are making more money off of those truck's that are delivering those goods to our store's which pass on a higher delivery price to the supermarket than put a higher price on the good's that we buy whith a terrible economy and that means the oil companys are sitting back laughing at all of us while a "HUGE" ohmy.gif percentage of americans are losing jobs,houses,cars,health ins,WOW where is our blink.gif president when we need him the most,oops forgot he's dancing on the steps of the white house treating his last,thank god few months like its a damn party.He should be fighting for us 24 hours a day,do what ever it takes. Call meetings get eveyone together and see what it would take to fix what is wrong. Or just give out a check for a few hundred dollars,ahhhh that will pasify them,it looks like Im doing something and care!! My 11 year old daughter can figure this out and do a better job of running this country,with some of her class mates as her cabinet and othe 5th graders as congress,hey at least they would get stuff done and make progress! tongue.gif
DXSMac
QUOTE(rodman @ Mar 9 2008, 02:17 PM) *

Don't forget diesel at over 3.75 a gallon. well over $100 to fill my truck. A trip to Monterey will cost me about $150 in fuel and $75 a night at the RV park. I won't be going much as long as this last's.

What RV park charges $75 a night?????? The most I have ever paid is $50, and it was in Bend, OR, and this was a REALLY REALLY FANCY RV PARK!!!!

JJ
donm
We need to hold our presidential candidates feet to the fire on this. Jimmy Carter was the last president who thought energy policy was a number one issue for our country. He started an alternative energy program which Reagan cancelled as soon as he took office. It's probably going to take gas lines again before this is taken seriously.
Chuckl
Folks the problem is only partly the Oil companies fault the main culprat are the Wall st traders who have run up the price on pure spectulation probably over 50% of the cost is speculation by the traders
RL36
Then like I said in my last post,why doesn't the president do as he should as commander in chief call an emergency meeting with the oil companys and others and find out why this is happening. Let wall street know that they are working together to bring down the cost of oil so the american peaple can have some kind of releaf. Maybe he doesn't want to bite the hand that's going to feed him after his lazy 8 years as huh.gif president! Like he said he is going to Crawford in January to kick his feet up,thats what is important to him not "US"!!!!! mad.gif
DXSMac
QUOTE(RL36 @ Mar 10 2008, 04:03 AM) *

Then like I said in my last post,why doesn't the president do as he should as commander in chief call an emergency meeting with the oil companys and others and find out why this is happening. Let wall street know that they are working together to bring down the cost of oil so the american peaple can have some kind of releaf. Maybe he doesn't want to bite the hand that's going to feed him after his lazy 8 years as huh.gif president! Like he said he is going to Crawford in January to kick his feet up,thats what is important to him not "US"!!!!! mad.gif


Kind of makes me wonder if a "certain" person in high power engineered the whole Middle East war in the first place...... as well as the event that triggered it.....

(ducking and running.......)

JJ
Butch
Watch what you say, as there are those who police the postings and will judge what you have to say as Un-American and dis-loyal to this great nation........... Personally, you have that right to voice your opinion on whatever the subject matter.........
We have fought wars for this right......
rodman
QUOTE(DXSMac @ Mar 9 2008, 09:36 PM) *

What RV park charges $75 a night?????? The most I have ever paid is $50, and it was in Bend, OR, and this was a REALLY REALLY FANCY RV PARK!!!!

JJ


Most coastal RV parks from Monterey south and they really aren't fancy at all, but that's California for ya.
Beastdriver
Butch: Thank you and I totally agree with you. There are those on this site who, when you speak out against something our government is or is not doing, consider you disloyal or UnAmerican. Sad. I spent four years of my life in the military and three years in the reserves to help make sure people CAN voice their opinions. But I pay no attention to those who tell me I am not loyal because I speak out.
RL36
Look, to me it's not a republican thing or a democratic thing it need's to be about doing the "RIGHT" thing. As the president you want to go out beat your chest like your all high and mighty and holyer than thou,threaten other country's cost us $12 billion dollars a month lose tons of live's,dont do anything about these peaple losing there homes,jobs,healthcare and so many other issues. Heard on the news today gas will go up 30-40cents in the next 3 weeks,$12 billion a month for this war,1000's of jobs lost last month and our dollar is the weakest it has ever been. Now that sounds "UNAMERICAN" to me! I was watching the news this morning and one of bush's ex cabinet person Andy Card came on and had the nerve to say that the only peaple that are hurting are the peaple living in the coastal cities but middle america is doing just fine."I ABOUT FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR" thats the arigant's (or how ever you spell it,sorry) that these idiot's have. I honestly think that they got us in such a deep hole they know deep down inside they can'not get us out. So now he can't wait to get to crawford,tx so he can kick his feet up,sit back and watch the next president come in with there work cut out for them and try and bring us back as "PROUD AMERICANS" smile.gif
Beastdriver
RL36: It is refreshing to hear someone emphasize that it is not a Republican thing or a Democratic thing. I don't want to politicize this site but I regret to say that I did vote for Bush, not once but twice, a serious error on my part. And, in my humble opinion, it is not the Republican party or the Democratic party that got us into this mess--it was George W. Bush and the collective Congress (Democratics and Republicans) that did it. Unfortunately, if Jesus Christ returned today and ran for the Presidency on the Republican ticket, he could not be elected, and that is unfortunate. But we need to stop looking at the problem as Republican or Democratic and look at it as an AMERICAN problem. It's going to take a strong, strong leader, and a strong, strong Congress, to kick butt and take names and turn this country around. What scares me is I don't see any strong leadership anywhere--in the parties or in the Congress. I guess this makes me disloyal, but it is the way I feel.
Butch
QUOTE(RL36 @ Mar 10 2008, 12:12 PM) *

Look, to me it's not a republican thing or a democratic thing it need's to be about doing the "RIGHT" thing. As the president you want to go out beat your chest like your all high and mighty and holyer than thou,threaten other country's cost us $12 billion dollars a month lose tons of live's,dont do anything about these peaple losing there homes,jobs,healthcare and so many other issues. Heard on the news today gas will go up 30-40cents in the next 3 weeks,$12 billion a month for this war,1000's of jobs lost last month and our dollar is the weakest it has ever been. Now that sounds "UNAMERICAN" to me! I was watching the news this morning and one of bush's ex cabinet person Andy Card came on and had the nerve to say that the only peaple that are hurting are the peaple living in the coastal cities but middle america is doing just fine."I ABOUT FELL OUT OF MY CHAIR" thats the arigant's (or how ever you spell it,sorry) that these idiot's have. I honestly think that they got us in such a deep hole they know deep down inside they can'not get us out. So now he can't wait to get to crawford,tx so he can kick his feet up,sit back and watch the next president come in with there work cut out for them and try and bring us back as "PROUD AMERICANS" smile.gif


As with many others here, I too spent part of my life in the military and take great exception to those who call one disloyal and Un-America because you speak out on any governmental issue. I too read the newspaper daily and watch the news daily and have to agree with what you say, it's all there for you to observe and digest. The American standard of living is slowly slipping away and has been observed that the standard will decrease this year for the first time in many years. To put a year on it let's say since the close of World War II....1945-46. Do I have the answer...hell no, but I'll be 69 years old in a few months and the future does not look very promising as our economy is going down the tube. We, the public can do little about the situation, but we do have the right of voting. Only a vote, but in total maybe enough to turn this country around....... Anyone has the right to disagree with my views but I have the right to my opinion....... right or wrong..... Sorry to get off the orginal topic and on the soap box.......but

thank you
RL36
It sounds like we need to try something different,maybe someone with a great bussiness background would work for us at a time like this. Becouse what we got surely did not work (GEARGE W).At this point we need,sorry to say it "CHANGE",Im war fatigued,religion fatigued,oil fatigued just strait fatigued of all this crap!!! We dont need someone beating there chest about religion,it just divides everyone,we dont need someone beating there chest about the war,it just divides everyone we don't need someone beating there chest about how there health care is better than there's you get my point. We are the DIVIDED STATES OF AMERICA, can we please be "UNITED" and get a leader that will work there heart out for us (man or woman) (black or white) (and it doesn't matter what religion)at this point it does not matter,just bring us back. smile.gif
Parkview
The best thing my government can do for me is Leave Me Alone. The government has never benn good at solving problems, and most of the time when they try, they either make the problem worse or create a new problem.

The most effective problem solvers and job providers in the country can be found in our free enterprise system, not the government. The government should not bail out lenders or borrowers or anyone else for the bad decisions that they have made. There are and should be consequences for bad choices and/or decisions. A wise man once said "Without the chance at failure, there is no such thing as success." Equal opportunity does not means equal results.
John Blue
More good news! Oil now over $111. Road diesel will go over $4 very soon. Are we at home yet?
HappiestCamper
QUOTE(Parkview @ Mar 10 2008, 04:40 PM) *

The best thing my government can do for me is Leave Me Alone.


Amen!
jperera
QUOTE(John Blue @ Mar 13 2008, 07:51 PM) *

More good news! Oil now over $111. Road diesel will go over $4 very soon. Are we at home yet?


It is now over $4 in No. CA
pianotuna
Hi,

$4.77 for a US gallon in Saskatchewan
Beastdriver
As of today, it is $5.46 a gallon (US) in New Zealand. All the dollars in the entire world are flowing to the Arabs, and they'll use it for weapons and attacks on democracies! Let's see now, where is the alternative energy sources the government promised us in the 70s when we had the first oil crisis????
Jerry S
If I remember correctly, the 1977-1981 president tried for most of his presidency to get altenative fuels going only to to have his successor put an end to any of that anti-oil business foolishness. Did you know that solar panels were installed on the roof of the White House in the late 1970s only to have them immediately removed by the next president.?

I have been waiting to hear somebody mention the comment the president made earlier this week when asked about the projected $4/gal. gas. Give or take a words, he replied "$4, I hadn't heard that". Just today or yesterday, he proclaimed that he believed that the economy was not that bad. I guess that's true if you don't have to buy (or worry about paying for) food, medicine, gas, pay a mortgage or rent, etc.

For the poster who suggested that we need businessmen as leaders: The two guys who agruably had the most influence in the current administration were both very successfull businessmen. Rumsfeld made millions and Cheney billions in the private sector. Do you really want to put our economic future in the hands of men who, historically, often put personal and corporate enrichment above people?

Just one more thing for now. Wasn't all that Iraqi oil revenue suppose to pay for the war? Some say it is sitting in, among others, Haliburton's coffers along with the other $100+ billion in taxpayer funded war profits. Gee, If anybody in the administration had any connection to Haliburton, somebody might get suspicious - Big Time.
Beastdriver
Jerry:

Who said intelligence isn't heriditary? Do you remember, when the previous President Bush lost the election, the slogan so effectively used against him was, "It's the economy,stupid."

And the oil revenues in Iraq have grown to the point of where they have billions in surplus now. The excuse they give is that they can't distribute the money to help fix up their infrastructure because of all the graft and corruption. Hell, that never stopped a US politician before.
rodman
I truly wish I knew who's fault it really is. Everyone seems to have their own opinion of who's to blame, I just wonder if we will ever know. I do know this, to answer the question of the thread, The cost of fuel here in Ca. has gone over $4 a gallon and that with the high cost of RV parks here we have decided to park our TT until the cost's come down.

As always just my opinion,
Beastdriver
QUOTE(rodman @ Mar 17 2008, 07:20 AM) *

I truly wish I knew who's fault it really is. Everyone seems to have their own opinion of who's to blame, I just wonder if we will ever know. I do know this, to answer the question of the thread, The cost of fuel here in Ca. has gone over $4 a gallon and that with the high cost of RV parks here we have decided to park our TT until the cost's come down.

As always just my opinion,


Rodman: I am truly sorry you have to park it for awhile. Perhaps things will return to some degree of normalcy this summer, and you can take it up again.
DXSMac
QUOTE(Beastdriver @ Mar 17 2008, 09:41 AM) *

Rodman: I am truly sorry you have to park it for awhile. Perhaps things will return to some degree of normalcy this summer, and you can take it up again.


Last year, there was a "hike" about April, and everyone feared the worst for Memorial Day. But, right before Memorial Day, the prices came down, what a shock! (Normally, there is a hike to gouge the Memorial Day traffic.) I hope the same happens this year.....

JJ
rodman
QUOTE(Beastdriver @ Mar 17 2008, 09:41 AM) *

Rodman: I am truly sorry you have to park it for awhile. Perhaps things will return to some degree of normalcy this summer, and you can take it up again.


Thanks, I appreciate that. I feel bad for those who probably like yourself have to fill a motorhome tank. Mine is around $140 to fill and that's a 3/4 ton truck, I can't imagine what you are having to fork out. Hopefully you can stay parked in a beautiful place for awhile. We will just make 1 or 2 real nice trips this year instead of trying to get out once a month. I guess I'm partly at fault for the high prices as well, you know supply and demand. I do drive a gas HOG by choice. I'm just lucky I have a motorcycle to ride back and forth to work.

As always just my opinion,
Big Ben
Just come by Petro on I75 in Ft. Myers Fl. Diesel $4.07 cash, $4.14 credit. Thank you Dick Cheney & President Bush. I appreciate all your hard work.
RL36
sad.gif Unfortunatly they have not worked hard for us at all! And I don't think they will be working hard for us in the future. I guess what ever we think or what america thinks does'nt really matter to the president. I just got back from So Cal and "WOW" diesel is $4.10 a gallon! Like I said they don't care. I heard its going higher!!! sad.gif
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