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DXSMac
I was reading a few reviews and someone rated a park down because of a rule of "NO ALCOHOL OUTSIDE THE RV." Ok, up front, that does seem like a silly rule. However, there may be a driver for it. This campground was located in Tennessee. Um......some of those southern states have "dry" counties. I'm guessing that was the "driver" for that rule. I lived in Georgia for 13 years, I found out all about wet and dry counties and the political issues they cause. So, if you are in a campground with a rule that seems silly to you, I would inquire as to what the "driver" for the rule is. And don't accept "just our policy" as an answer, that is never an answer!

Any other "silly" rules you have run across? Perhaps we can figure out the rationale for them.

JJ
gilda
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BBear
The one sign I can never get over I saw at a campground pool "No Urinating In The Pool!" Ummm, like someone has to be told that, lol, but unfortunately I guess it does happen.

And, at the same pool a large sign states "No Diving" right next to a diving board...umm, that's just like giving candy to a child and telling them they can't eat it!
DXSMac
Gilda, OH MY! Getting a discount for a certain religion???? I'm stymied!

BBear, I agree with you, telling us not to dive when there is a diving board??????

JJ
Markfoto
QUOTE(BBear @ Apr 14 2008, 04:00 PM) *

The one sign I can never get over I saw at a campground pool "No Urinating In The Pool!" Ummm, like someone has to be told that, lol, but unfortunately I guess it does happen.



Especially from the diving board! blink.gif


BBear
QUOTE(Markfoto @ Apr 15 2008, 06:38 PM) *

Especially from the diving board! blink.gif


LOL...swan dive. ohmy.gif tongue.gif wink.gif
Jerry S.
On the "no diving" issue: About 20 years ago as our society was becoming more and more litigious, many insurance companies raised the premiums for liability insurance for businesses with swimming pools. For most parks it was easier and a lot cheaper to simply ban diving rather than spend the extra money. I think that some local governments even banned pool diving for safety reasons. That's one reason you almost never see a newer park with a depth of more than 5 feet. Many older parks with diving boards and/or adequate depth instituted the ban but did not remove the boards. Others actually removed the boards. I try to stay in parks with pools during my May to Nov travels. This usually amounts to 30+ different parks each year and I am lucky if a couple allow any diving and have only been to one park in recent years that had a board you could use.

So this silly rule is the the result of safety/insurance/lawsuit concerns.
FosterImposters
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"Signs, signs, everywhere a sign. Blocking the scenery, breaking my mind..."
Jerry makes a good point...our society has become goofy with the lawsuit mentality. One result are the often hilarious disclaimers posted on everything from our food containers to gas station pumps.
Yep: it had "Do not drink" right on the pump.
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BBear
QUOTE(Jerry S. @ Apr 16 2008, 12:02 AM) *

On the "no diving" issue: About 20 years ago as our society was becoming more and more litigious, many insurance companies raised the premiums for liability insurance for businesses with swimming pools. For most parks it was easier and a lot cheaper to simply ban diving rather than spend the extra money. I think that some local governments even banned pool diving for safety reasons. That's one reason you almost never see a newer park with a depth of more than 5 feet. Many older parks with diving boards and/or adequate depth instituted the ban but did not remove the boards. Others actually removed the boards. I try to stay in parks with pools during my May to Nov travels. This usually amounts to 30+ different parks each year and I am lucky if a couple allow any diving and have only been to one park in recent years that had a board you could use.

So this silly rule is the the result of safety/insurance/lawsuit concerns.


You're absolutely right, Jerry S. But, you know what's really sad, when it came down to it most of the "accidents" that took place with regard to diving and diving boards mostly were that of negligence on the part of the person hurt and not that of the owners of the pool, the makers of the pool, the diving board, etc..yet the owners and pool and diving board companies found it easier to accept blame and have their insurance companies deal with it and settle instead of fighting it. And, hence, people got away with millions because of an accident that actually was their own fault.
DXSMac
QUOTE(FosterImposters @ Apr 16 2008, 10:15 AM) *

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"Signs, signs, everywhere a sign. Blocking the scenery, breaking my mind..."


Aw MAN!!!!! Take me back to the 70's!!!!!! biggrin.gif Simpler Time!

JJ
Texasrvers
QUOTE(BBear @ Apr 16 2008, 12:58 PM) *

the owners and pool and diving board companies found it easier to accept blame and have their insurance companies deal with it and settle instead of fighting it. And, hence, people got away with millions because of an accident that actually was their own fault.



Isn't this one reason why insurance rates are so high?!
BBear
QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Apr 16 2008, 02:47 PM) *

Isn't this one reason why insurance rates are so high?!


One of the reasons, yes.
FosterImposters
Ok...I've got a rule question. What is with the NO WASHING OF RV IN PARK. Yet one can HIRE someone to come by and wash the RV...no problem. huh.gif

It's not a 'splatter your neighbor with suds' issue. The 'professional' RV washers do that just fine... laugh.gif
DXSMac
QUOTE(FosterImposters @ Apr 27 2008, 12:54 PM) *

Ok...I've got a rule question. What is with the NO WASHING OF RV IN PARK. Yet one can HIRE someone to come by and wash the RV...no problem. huh.gif

It's not a 'splatter your neighbor with suds' issue. The 'professional' RV washers do that just fine... laugh.gif


I'm glad SOMEONE asked that question, I haven't figured out the driver for that! However, I have sanitized my fresh water tank in parks that said "no washing" and nobody said boo..... This involved a lot of driving around the park to slosh the tank, then a lot of dumping and refilling and dumping.......

Let's see.... we can split hairs with..... "I'm not washing, I'm rubbing spots off....."

JJ
BBear
QUOTE(FosterImposters @ Apr 27 2008, 03:54 PM) *

Ok...I've got a rule question. What is with the NO WASHING OF RV IN PARK. Yet one can HIRE someone to come by and wash the RV...no problem. huh.gif

It's not a 'splatter your neighbor with suds' issue. The 'professional' RV washers do that just fine... laugh.gif


I've always thought the "No Washing of RV In Park" rule was to conserve water. I've never heard of hiring someone to come into do it, but maybe they're allowed so long as they bring their own tank filled with water like a lot of these powerwasher professionals have. But, if they don't bring their own tank and they're using the campgrounds water, I'd definitely bring up why they can do it and not the camper.
Parkview
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I think the reason that many RV Parks do not allow washing of RVs in the park is to avoid mudholes in the yards next to the sites, which affect both your yard and your neighbors, especially if some clown drives into the soaked area to park his toad right after he finishes washing. Some parks have designated wash areas to avoid this problem. Being in a semi desert area, mud is seldom a problem for us, and we allow washing, but I understand why some parks do not. Landscaping and grounds maintenance in RV Parks is a much greater expense than some may think, much greater than any water usage cost would be.
mikel
QUOTE(Markfoto @ Apr 15 2008, 02:38 PM) *

Especially from the diving board! blink.gif



NYYYCE!!
Jurhee
QUOTE(BBear @ Apr 28 2008, 12:08 PM) *

I've always thought the "No Washing of RV In Park" rule was to conserve water. I've never heard of hiring someone to come into do it, but maybe they're allowed so long as they bring their own tank filled with water like a lot of these powerwasher professionals have. But, if they don't bring their own tank and they're using the campgrounds water, I'd definitely bring up why they can do it and not the camper.




To get around the "no washing to conserve water" rule, a friend would wash his rig using water from the fresh water tank. When someone came and told him he could not wash the rig, he showed them that he was using "his" water. Of course, when finished, he filled up the tank. He said that nobody ever challenged him on it!

The professional services that are available in the nicer resort areas generally carry their own water supply.

http://www.jerry-jurhee.blogspot.com/
donee
I agree with the "No Washing".
One park I was in had the same rule.
Then they advertise that they are going to have a power washer come in and anyone interested apply at the office.
Does that make sense???
Jurhee
QUOTE(donee @ Jul 2 2008, 01:51 AM) *

I agree with the "No Washing".
One park I was in had the same rule.
Then they advertise that they are going to have a power washer come in and anyone interested apply at the office.
Does that make sense???



Of course, it makes "cents" and dollars, too. You can expect to pay $1.50 to $2.50 per foot (length of rig). I expect in some cases that park gets a cut of that. Many of the services do a poor job--in fact, sometimes it seems that the more they charge, the worse they do--partly because they are not doing it frequently so don't have the proper equipment and people do do it right.

A lot of times you will get a better wash at a truck wash.

catman2130093
QUOTE(Jurhee @ Jul 2 2008, 06:52 AM) *

Of course, it makes "cents" and dollars, too. You can expect to pay $1.50 to $2.50 per foot (length of rig). I expect in some cases that park gets a cut of that. Many of the services do a poor job--in fact, sometimes it seems that the more they charge, the worse they do--partly because they are not doing it frequently so don't have the proper equipment and people do do it right.

A lot of times you will get a better wash at a truck wash.

You better believe they get a cut! I once stayed at a park outside Atlanta that made buying propane such trouble (if you had a motorhome). The park cut a deal with the gas company-"you don't bring your truck in here to service rvs, and we'll rent a huge tank from you, and sell the gas ourselves to rvers, adding our own tidy surcharge, of course". Except for paying higher rates, at least trailer owners could take their tanks to the office for a fill. If you had a mh, you disconnected everything, pulled up your jacks, battened everything down, then drove the rv to the fill tank, and waited for the help to show up and fill your tank. What I did, was let them pay for my electricity and used electric heaters! The management was okay with that too!! Amazing!
dancyn
catman...I have never seen a propane company that would service a motorhome, unless you rented a bigger tank (125 gallons or more) from them and had it set up at your site.

An RV park that dispenses propane has to have a mark up from the price they pay for the propane, or why should they do it?
Texasrvers
I hope I'm understanding this discussion correctly. Catman is saying that propane trucks would come to the RV park to service RV's --that is fill their propane tanks at their individual site. (Then he goes on to explain how the park made a deal to get a cut.) Next Dancyn said he/she had never seen this type of service.

If we are in fact talking about trucks coming to your RV site to fill your propane tank, I just wanted to say that we see this all the time. Some places have even given us the truck schedule when we checked in. Other times we have asked at the office if there is a service available. Many times there has been. The truck would pull up at your site and use a long hose to reach your tank. Granted we do have a class A with a larger tank, but it was still on board, not out back on the ground. I don't know if they will come to your site to fill small removable tanks, but I don't see why not. It just may cost more than it's worth.
DXSMac
Wow. I've been told that Propane trucks are "too powerful" to service the small tanks in an RV, and they can only do large (80 gallons and over) tanks.

JJ
Jurhee
QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Jul 24 2008, 04:52 PM) *

I hope I'm understanding this discussion correctly. Catman is saying that propane trucks would come to the RV park to service RV's --that is fill their propane tanks at their individual site. (Then he goes on to explain how the park made a deal to get a cut.) Next Dancyn said he/she had never seen this type of service.

If we are in fact talking about trucks coming to your RV site to fill your propane tank, I just wanted to say that we see this all the time. Some places have even given us the truck schedule when we checked in. Other times we have asked at the office if there is a service available. Many times there has been. The truck would pull up at your site and use a long hose to reach your tank. Granted we do have a class A with a larger tank, but it was still on board, not out back on the ground. I don't know if they will come to your site to fill small removable tanks, but I don't see why not. It just may cost more than it's worth.


There are many places where the truck will come service a motor home with a permanent (non-removable) tank at the site. On trailers and 5ers the tanks must be removed. I don't know if a truck will service them or if they have to be taken to the propane dealer. Some may fill them on site after the customer removes them. That may vary with the dealer.
Jurhee
[quote name='catman2130093' date='Jul 24 2008, 10:14 AM' post='12414']
You better believe they get a cut! I once stayed at a park outside Atlanta that made buying propane such trouble (if you had a motorhome). The park cut a deal with the gas company-"you don't bring your truck in here to service rvs, and we'll rent a huge tank from you, and sell the gas ourselves to rvers, adding our own tidy surcharge, of course". Except for paying higher rates, at least trailer owners could take their tanks to the office for a fill. If you had a mh, you disconnected everything, pulled up your jacks, battened everything down, then drove the rv to the fill tank, and waited for the help to show up and fill your tank. What I did, was let them pay for my electricity and used electric heaters! The management was okay with that too!! Amazing!


We were discussing washing the rig at the site not propane.

In the resort where we can usually get the rig washed on site, the guys are authorized vendors (there are 2 companies that are allowed) and we pay in cash. They do so many rigs per day and I really don't see how the resort management could figure out how many they do. They are so busy that sometimes it takes 3 or 4 days to get an appointment. But, they are fast--with 6 or 8 guys working, it only takes a few minutes and it is done---and clean--and dried, windows polished, etc.
DXSMac
QUOTE(Jurhee @ Jul 24 2008, 03:39 PM) *

There are many places where the truck will come service a motor home with a permanent (non-removable) tank at the site. On trailers and 5ers the tanks must be removed. I don't know if a truck will service them or if they have to be taken to the propane dealer. Some may fill them on site after the customer removes them. That may vary with the dealer.


That's what I thought. You can only get "Serviced" if you have a tank extender installed and you have a large tank. Those propane trucks, to my knowledge, cannot service small tanks in a motorhome. I fulltimed for about 8 months, and this went through the winter, and in the winter, every three days I had to unhook and go buy propane. That's the sucky part.

JJ
catman2130093
QUOTE(DXSMac @ Jul 24 2008, 07:10 PM) *

That's what I thought. You can only get "Serviced" if you have a tank extender installed and you have a large tank. Those propane trucks, to my knowledge, cannot service small tanks in a motorhome. I fulltimed for about 8 months, and this went through the winter, and in the winter, every three days I had to unhook and go buy propane. That's the sucky part.

JJ

That was your experience dsxmac- here in Carrabelle Florida, (as Jones RV park USED to do in North Atlanta) the propane truck delivers to motorhomes with fixed tanks. Trailers have to have their tanks removed from the trailer. Whatever, the whole point I was trying to make (and not hijack the thread)was that rv parks DO often get in bed with vendors in order to get a cut of the action-as in other folks with rv washing businesses. Geez, so many people want to correct me - "I've never seen it so it can't be true" Sheesh..
dancyn
Sheesh, Catman, I didn't say it wasn't true. I said I had never seen a propane company that would do that. But I haven't been to Florida, either. dsxmac did have that experience.....at my resort. To have propane delivered to an individual site, the propane company will set a tank for the RV to be hooked to. They will not fill a motorhome onboard tank. If the guest chooses not to have a tank set, then they must bring the motorhome to our dispensing tank.

That doesn't mean I cut a deal with the propane company. Sometimes my price is equal to or less than what the propane company charges the guests, depending on the "program" they sign up for with the gas company. We do pick up bottles from travel trailers and 5th wheels from the site and return them filled at no additional cost to the guest. We do this for the convenience of both of us.

And to keep this on subject, we have a wash/wax service on site that gives no kick back to the resort at all. It's their little business, and it's good for my business.
Jurhee
QUOTE(dancyn @ Jul 27 2008, 02:13 AM) *

Sheesh, Catman, I didn't say it wasn't true. I said I had never seen a propane company that would do that. But I haven't been to Florida, either. dsxmac did have that experience.....at my resort. To have propane delivered to an individual site, the propane company will set a tank for the RV to be hooked to. They will not fill a motorhome onboard tank. If the guest chooses not to have a tank set, then they must bring the motorhome to our dispensing tank.

That doesn't mean I cut a deal with the propane company. Sometimes my price is equal to or less than what the propane company charges the guests, depending on the "program" they sign up for with the gas company. We do pick up bottles from travel trailers and 5th wheels from the site and return them filled at no additional cost to the guest. We do this for the convenience of both of us.

And to keep this on subject, we have a wash/wax service on site that gives no kick back to the resort at all. It's their little business, and it's good for my business.


Dancyn,

I don't know where you are, but I would think that different states probably have different laws. In Texas and California, Propane trucks can come into an RV park and fill the motorhome tanks. In Texas, if the tank is removable, like in a trailer or 5er, it has to be removed from the rig. It depends on the service whether or not they will fill those on site. I know that some will. I don't know about the removable tanks in CA because we stay in Outdoor Resorts that only allows class A rigs. I have not payed attention in other places.

Of course, the Resorts/parks that allow the trucks don't have the on-site tank such as you have.

How about telling us where your park is located so we can come see you if we are in your area??



DXSMac
QUOTE(Jurhee @ Jul 27 2008, 01:23 AM) *

I don't know about the removable tanks in CA because we stay in Outdoor Resorts that only allows class A rigs.


I've heard of some parks having silly rules that your rig can't be more than X years old, but parks have rules that ONLY Class A's can come? What is up with that?

JJ
kcmoedoe
There sure seems to be a lot of hostility towards RV park owners in these threads. Of course they are looking for opportunities to make additional income. Washing a rig does cost the park money and as someone pointed out creates a potential problem with mud and runoff with the neighbors. Also, some washing detergents can kill grass and landscaping. Allowing outside vendors to provide on site propane and other services adds another potential layer of liability to the campground. I frequently stay at a park that recently stopped selling propane due to the fact that the insurance costs were greater than the propane profits. This owner of this park told me that he would need to carry a propane gas rider on his policy if he allowed the local propane company to fill RVs on site. While it may be inconvenient to have to move the RV to fill the Propane tank or wash the rig, it would be more inconvenient to not have an RV park available due to the fact the owner couldn't make a profit. I also don't want the extra costs of a service or convenience I may or may not use hidden in the fees I pay for a site rental.
Texasrvers
Yes, JJ, there are places that allow only Class A RVs. Outdoor Resorts is one of them. (Although the Outdoor Resort in Arkansas had 5ers. They still did not allow pop-ups, tents, etc., or even screen rooms. I'm not sure about travel trailers. I don't remember seeing one.) And many times the Class A must also be at least a certain length and not older than X years--usually 10. I guess they want to maintain a certain "look." We have a Class A, but we rarely stay at Class A only places. We usually find them to be too expensive. (However, we have really liked the 2 Outdoor Resorts we've stayed at. They were really beautiful and had first class facilities.)

Back to the propane issue: Jurhee mentioned that there may be different rules for different states. That may be true, I do not know, but Nevada is another state that will allow trucks to fill tanks at the individual sites. Remember I am talking about a Class A. We have never owned anything else, and I wasn't aware that tanks had to be removed on other types of RVs to be filled. I assumed large 5th wheels and TT carried the same type of propane tanks as Class A's. Guess I learned something from all this. But I do know we have had our tank filled many times right at our site (mostly in Texas). I'm sure there are regulations that govern this, but not being in the propane business I only know about our own RV.

But now, Dancyn, I'm curious about something you said. You said, "To have propane delivered to an individual site, the propane company will set a tank for the RV to be hooked to." You must mean this is done only for long term residents. Surely a propane company would not set a tank for a short term stay, like an overnight or even a week. Maybe this is a common practice in some parts of the country, but I don't recall seeing this type of set up here in Texas EXCEPT for very long term/permanent residents. Please explain how this works where you are. I want to expand my RV knowledge base.



DXSMac
TexasRVers, that makes sense. At the park where I once full-timed, the long term residents had an external tank, one of those huge 80 gallon ones, set along side their RV, and they had an "extender" installed. It kind of "split" the hose between the on board propane tank and the external. The trucks would deliver to THOSE sites. I asked about having a truck fill my small tank, and I was told that the truck delivery was "too powerful" for my small 10 gallon tank. However, the park I stayed at did have their own on site propane service, I just had to unhook and go get it. Also, this same park would deliver tanks to travel trailers if you set your empty one out....

JJ
dancyn
Texasrvers.....yes, that refers to extended stay sites. We have 2 propane companies in the area that will set a tank at an extended stay site and then service it on a keep-filled basis. Motorhomes on an extended stay that choose not to have the tanks set, as dxsmac was, must bring the motorhome to the large resale tank by the office. A real pita for them.
Jurhee
[quote name='Texasrvers' date='Jul 27 2008, 12:22 PM' post='12487']
Yes, JJ, there are places that allow only Class A RVs. Outdoor Resorts is one of them. (Although the Outdoor Resort in Arkansas had 5ers. They still did not allow pop-ups, tents, etc., or even screen rooms. I'm not sure about travel trailers. I don't remember seeing one.) And many times the Class A must also be at least a certain length and not older than X years--usually 10. I guess they want to maintain a certain "look." We have a Class A, but we rarely stay at Class A only places. We usually find them to be too expensive. (However, we have really liked the 2 Outdoor Resorts we've stayed at. They were really beautiful and had first class facilities.)


I was at the Outdoor Resorts of the Ozarks in Arkansas earlier this summer for 2 weeks. I loved it! Such a beautiful place with every site having a view of the lake. If it were not so far from SoCal, I would have bought a lot. It did allow 5th wheels, but, like you, I did not see any travel trailers. We have a lot at Outdoor Resorts, Indio, CA. Each Outdoor Resort had it's ownd different "personality" and style. The one in Indio, and the "snobby" MotorCoach Country Club across the street are Class A only. The one in Cathedral City allows 5ers. Pacific Shores, Oregon is only Class A.

DSXMac---the Outdoor Resorts are where the lot is purchased and used when ever the owner wants to be there. If the resort is not sold out--as in the one mentioned in Arkansas, the lots are avalable for rent. If all lots are sold, some owners will put their lots in the "pool" for rental through the office, or will rent individually to people. They are all beautiful -- but strictly a Resort type setting. If you like "camping" and the great outdoors, you may not enjoy the resort atmosphere. Personally, I like both! Sometimes, though the "camping" is difficuly in a 40' motor home. Sites are just not large enough.

hypogi
QUOTE(DXSMac @ Apr 27 2008, 04:49 PM) *

I'm glad SOMEONE asked that question, I haven't figured out the driver for that! However, I have sanitized my fresh water tank in parks that said "no washing" and nobody said boo..... This involved a lot of driving around the park to slosh the tank, then a lot of dumping and refilling and dumping.......

Let's see.... we can split hairs with..... "I'm not washing, I'm rubbing spots off....."

JJ



I work camped for awhile in VA and was told that the "no washing" rule was a health code issue. Something about standing water and water run off. Im not certian if the owner was just pulling my leg or what.

At that particular park they had a well...no city water out in the woods...and I think that was a big part of it also. Some folks will just let a running water hose pour gallons and gallons on to the ground as they wash. The owners are usually a lot more understanding if you are using a bucket instead of just wasting water.
Jurhee
QUOTE(hypogi @ Aug 2 2008, 07:23 PM) *

I work camped for awhile in VA and was told that the "no washing" rule was a health code issue. Something about standing water and water run off. Im not certian if the owner was just pulling my leg or what.

At that particular park they had a well...no city water out in the woods...and I think that was a big part of it also. Some folks will just let a running water hose pour gallons and gallons on to the ground as they wash. The owners are usually a lot more understanding if you are using a bucket instead of just wasting water.



I agree---A lot of people will just waste the water and make a mess because it does not cost them anything and they don't have to clean up the mess. If we are in a park and allowed to wash the rig, DH wets a section, uses a bucket and brush, then rinses that area and goes to the next. Really does not use that much water, and does not make a mess.
riggarob
QUOTE(DXSMac @ Jul 27 2008, 04:27 PM) *

TexasRVers, that makes sense. At the park where I once full-timed, the long term residents had an external tank, one of those huge 80 gallon ones, set along side their RV, and they had an "extender" installed. It kind of "split" the hose between the on board propane tank and the external. The trucks would deliver to THOSE sites. I asked about having a truck fill my small tank, and I was told that the truck delivery was "too powerful" for my small 10 gallon tank. However, the park I stayed at did have their own on site propane service, I just had to unhook and go get it. Also, this same park would deliver tanks to travel trailers if you set your empty one out....

JJ


At one of the parks we stay at in Zephyrhills FL, you can have a gas co. come fill you RV tank, or you can take you removable tank to a spot by the gate and have the RV park personnel fill them there. Your choice. They also let you wash your coach. When I'm at parks that don't let you wash, I use that blue stuff from CW that you add a capfull/gal of (I use distilled water from WM) water, and then wipe of the coach w/ a big cotton bath towel. Robbie
hypogi
QUOTE(Jurhee @ Aug 2 2008, 10:07 PM) *

I agree---A lot of people will just waste the water and make a mess because it does not cost them anything and they don't have to clean up the mess. If we are in a park and allowed to wash the rig, DH wets a section, uses a bucket and brush, then rinses that area and goes to the next. Really does not use that much water, and does not make a mess.


Its really unfortunate how some people will ruin it for the rest of us. The real problem I think most people have is that they arent able to see things from the park owners eyes. It may not bother you to leave the water running but if you had to listen to the next guy complain about how soggy his site is or have to pay the monthly water bill then it becomes a different story
daved1023
How about the rule that allows you to bring one dog free to the campground, but charges for an extra dog. How does a dog cost a cg money
Jurhee
QUOTE(daved1023 @ Aug 21 2008, 01:14 PM) *

How about the rule that allows you to bring one dog free to the campground, but charges for an extra dog. How does a dog cost a cg money



That is a new one on me. I have been to places where they charge for pets---but i avoid them when ever possible. I have never heard of the "1st one free". Strange ideas some people have.

If everyone would clean up after their pets, we would not have to deal with stuff like this.

Oh, I was in one place that said that you should carry water to pour on the spot where your dog potties to keep it from killing the grass. That was a new one on me. huh.gif

hypogi
QUOTE(daved1023 @ Aug 21 2008, 02:14 PM) *

How about the rule that allows you to bring one dog free to the campground, but charges for an extra dog. How does a dog cost a cg money


Its not that it cost the CG money it just that people with multiple pets are less likely to pick up after them. A person can only tolerate picking up a certain amount of dog mess before they try and do something to stop it. Have you ever hit a pile of dog mess with a weed eater? Think about that next time you leave some doggy mess behind in some tall grass thinking no one will notice. Not only is not picking up after your pet rude but its also illegal in a lot of places.

I know I'm starting to rant but this is one thing that really gets under my skin.
DXSMac
OH, I got one for you. What is, and isn't, an "EXTRA VEHICLE????"

This last week, I stayed at Riverside State Park in Spokane. I don't tow a car, so I got a rental from Enterprise, they delivered the car to me. Good service.

Anyway, the park ranger told me it was ok, because of the "one RV, one car" rule. However, the campground host told me that since I didn't TOW the car in, the rental was considered an "extra vehicle" and I would have to pay the "extra vehicle" fee. NO WAY! The park ranger already told me it was ok!!!

The park ranger rules!

JJ
Jurhee
QUOTE(hypogi @ Aug 21 2008, 09:32 PM) *

Its not that it cost the CG money it just that people with multiple pets are less likely to pick up after them. A person can only tolerate picking up a certain amount of dog mess before they try and do something to stop it. Have you ever hit a pile of dog mess with a weed eater? Think about that next time you leave some doggy mess behind in some tall grass thinking no one will notice. Not only is not picking up after your pet rude but its also illegal in a lot of places.

I know I'm starting to rant but this is one thing that really gets under my skin.



Most people with cats don't seem to think that the pet rules apply to them. They run loose everywhere bothering people--especially those with a very small dog (like me) and causing about all dogs to raise a ruckus. But, since the owners are not with the cats, they are not cleaned up after. This was a discussion recently on a list that I am on. Seems that the owners say that the cats bury their waste, so it is not necessary to pick up after them.

The dog owners got on their case BIG TIME. Of course, I doubt that it does any good, but we let them know how we feel about it anyway.
Texasrvers

We have run into the extra vehicle situation before. It was at a COE park. I can't quite remember how their policy was stated, but it sounded like you could have one camping unit and one vehicle per site. When we got there with our RV and towed car we were told the car was extra. I politely disagreed and pointed out that 5th wheels come in as one camping unit with the tow vehicle and that was not considered an extra vehicle. Since the policy wasn't stated very clearly the host didn't charge us. But I agree that this can be confusing. If the cg rules say one vehicle per site what vehicle are they talking about? Most RVers travel with a camping unit and a vehicle (whether it is pulling or being pulled), and I do not consider either of these as "extra." However I can understand the cg side. They don't want someone to bring in one camping unit and then have bunches of other people pull up in numerous vehicles taking up more than their share of space. In that case it would be fair to charge for the extra vehicles.

Now about cleaning up after cats. We travel with our cat (used to have 3), but we never let him/them outside even on a leash. However, if we did I would expect to clean up after him. Cats may try to bury their business, but they never do a really good job, especially if they are on grass. Saying you can't clean up after them because you don't know where they went is a poor excuse because the cat should not be roaming free in the first place. Bottom line is cat owners should be considerate and have the courtesy to follow the same rules as for dogs.
gwbischoff
I love keeping tabs on this place:

http://www.rvparkreviews.com/regions/Arizo...ff.html#CGID134

I've never stayed there, but I saw a writeup on it in a magazine a few years ago. It seems like most people have a love/hate relationship with it due to the strictly enforced rules.
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