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pianotuna
Hi All,

I rather goofed on the last attempt at a poll like this--so I've decided to use the KISS principle this time (Kiss = keep it simple, (I'm) stupid).

BBear
When I purchased my vehicle it came with OnStar and a years' free service. I didn't renew. I only used it a handful of times and just for the navigational service of which the few times I used it the directions were wrong. I do better with just a plain old map, LOL.

However, I am considering purchasing a hand-held GPS unit specifically for hiking...I hate compasses, LOL. And, may also start doing some geocaching. I went on a few geocaching adventures with some friends and had a blast.
Lindsay Richards
We don't use GPS, but have been considering it. We rarely know where we are going to spedn the night and frequently make changes on the fly. My wife is our GPS.
John Blue
Lindsay,

Nice part about wife's over GPS, they are never wrong and have no batteries to change out, also come with life time warranty in most cases. Pointed out what you should have done at last turn you missed, then hand you the map. They do cook better than we do. I would take wife over GPS any day. tongue.gif
pianotuna
Hi John,

I do 95% of the cooking--my wife can cook--but doesn't enjoy it--and doesn't do it particularly well (except for her apple pie)

QUOTE(John Blue @ Jan 20 2009, 12:10 AM) *

Lindsay,

Nice part about wife's over GPS, they are never wrong and have no batteries to change out, also come with life time warranty in most cases. Pointed out what you should have done at last turn you missed, then hand you the map. They do cook better than we do. I would take wife over GPS any day. tongue.gif

HappiestCamper
QUOTE(John Blue @ Jan 20 2009, 01:10 AM) *

Lindsay,

Nice part about wife's over GPS, they are never wrong and have no batteries to change out, also come with life time warranty in most cases. Pointed out what you should have done at last turn you missed, then hand you the map. They do cook better than we do. I would take wife over GPS any day. tongue.gif


At least my GPS has a mute button laugh.gif

I don't travel many places I haven't already been. I mainly use mine just to find addresses around town (when I was a kid my town was only about 3,500, now it's over 60,000 - plenty of streets I've never heard of). I will take it when I'm camping to get the coordinates for my photos to put in Google Earth.
DXSMac
I'm surprised someone hasn't complained. Last time I tried a poll, someone complained about "stupid polls." I like polls!

JJ
BJS
We use ours all of the time even when traveling to places we have already been - most places. It comes in handy to find rest areas and other places to stop.

It is nice to see exactly where we are on our route, how far to the next turn or destination, and there is always a mountain or river name of interest to be found.
campingandtravels.blogspot.com
Nope ~ we do not sue the GPS - just gool 'ole fashioned paper maps! smile.gif

Happy Travels!
Suzanne & Brad
http://campingandtravels.blogspot.com
Lee and Fran
Bought ours christmas of 2007 and glad I did. Best thing I have ever carried for traveling.
danamrak
We use our GPS as well as our atlas, and regular state maps. The GSPs is great but not always accurate. So cannot depend on it completely
Jerry S.
I think GPS is another one of those recent hi-tech devices that has made life (or at least getting somewhere) a lot easier for most of its' users, but, like us, is not perfect. The faults have been mentioned here and in other threads. In addition to it being wrong sometimes, it can make some folks a little too dependent on it. It reminds me a bit of hand-held calculators 20+ years ago. Once they were allowed in schools, we suddenly had a substantial number of kids coming out of school without the ability to do simple math. There is a lot to be said for being able to read maps, plot your route, and having this information in your head as you travel. As most of us who are getting up there in age have probably heard, we need to keep our brains active to try to stave off all sorts of old age maladies. While it is nice to have a little machine tells us what to do, I prefer to use my own abilities (as long as I have them) to get me from here to there.

All that crap said, I may have marked the wrong answer to the poll. I checked the last choice but could have checked "Never". I guess I got hung up on the fact that I don't have a GPS. I am having second thoughts about the correctness of my selection because the reason I don't have a GPS is that it is not something I "need" and therefore the cost of a GPS system is not worth the cost to me. On my 6700 mile trip this past summer, for example, I made one wrong turn (going right instead of left) going to the Walmart in Casper, WY. It cost me all of 2 miles and 5 minutes. This wonderful brain of mine couldn't remember my night before research as to whether the Walmart was east or west of the road I got onto as I exited I-25. Preventing that kind of error is not worth hundreds of dollars to me.

For those of you who use GPS, I just hope you don't run into any of those glitches that have been previously mentioned.
HappiestCamper
QUOTE(campingandtravels.blogspot.com @ Jan 23 2009, 11:04 PM) *

Nope ~ we do not sue the GPS - just gool 'ole fashioned paper maps!


I'm so glad you don't sue the GPS - this country is too litigious already laugh.gif

Now if we could just get you to keep the paper maps out of the courtroom biggrin.gif
DXSMac
QUOTE(HappiestCamper @ Jan 24 2009, 11:53 AM) *

I'm so glad you don't sue the GPS - this country is too litigious already laugh.gif

Now if we could just get you to keep the paper maps out of the courtroom biggrin.gif


Happiest, I'm glad you replied to this. I was debating whether or not to say something, but your "catch" of it had more "wit" than mine would have......

Now I'm debating whether to reply to the post that called it a "GSP" as opposed to a "GPS." biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Let's see.... GSP.... Global System Position....... Wow.

JJ
Texasrvers
Now, now, we all gat our fingurs on the rong keyz form tyme to tyme.

TZ (aka TX)
calif909
GPS can really help. We have a 40 ft rig w/toad and wrong turns can really be a pain. We have both a TomTom and a Garmin. We like the TomTom best. You can go to their web site and plug in all the big rig fuel stops and alot more. Hany tool. You can also plug in your favorite restuarant, store ect and find them easily as you travel.
Big Ben
QUOTE(DXSMac @ Jan 20 2009, 10:53 AM) *

I'm surprised someone hasn't complained. Last time I tried a poll, someone complained about "stupid polls." I like polls!

JJ

Well if it makes you feel any better I still think they are stupid. You must be terribly bored.
pianotuna
Hi Big Ben,

Your comment to JJ is inappropriate. Are you "big" enough to apologize?

QUOTE(Big Ben @ Feb 3 2009, 08:32 PM) *

Well if it makes you feel any better I still think they are stupid. You must be terribly bored.

Big Ben
QUOTE(pianotuna @ Feb 3 2009, 08:19 PM) *

Hi Big Ben,

Your comment to JJ is inappropriate. Are you "big" enough to apologize?

What part am I suppose to apologize for? I see no reason to apologize for thinking the polls are stupid, and I certainly see nothing wrong with some one appears to be bore. There are more than a few that don't like the polls, as has been said before.
Jerry S.
My initial reaction to Pianotuna's complaints about Ben's fairly innocuous comments was: Once again, the chivalrous knight has come charging in to defend the honor of the fair maiden. How will the "thought police/opinion censor" react to this comment? Is it cute or rude, clever or inapproriate, or whatever word(s) you want to use?
pianotuna
Hi Big Ben,

I guess you are not able to apologize. I apologize for upsetting you.

Hi Jerry S.,

How chivalrous of you to defend Big Ben's rude comment.

DXSMac
I didn't have a problem with Ben saying he didn't like the polls. However, I did have a problem with the "you must be bored" part. That was low! It's ok to say you don't like the polls. But to say, "you must be bored" is taking a low blow.

JJ
Big Ben
QUOTE(pianotuna @ Feb 4 2009, 03:08 AM) *

Hi Big Ben,

I guess you are not able to apologize. I apologize for upsetting you.

Hi Jerry S.,

How chivalrous of you to defend Big Ben's rude comment.


It is not that I can't apologize, I just don't think that what I wrote warrants one. Let's start a poll to see how many think that saying someone muist be bored is insulting.
I would think that "saying some one must be bored" bothered some one' They must be very thin skinned, but then you would tell me to apologize for that.
By the way I am bored. . The weather down here in around Ft. Myers Fl. has been terrible.
Gosh, nowI will have to apologize to????????????.
Jerry S.
Are we going to have another semantics disagreement? First of all, I don't see how the word "bored" is inherently insulting - at least no more so than to say you are "tired" or "hungry" or whatever. (If he had said "boring" instead of "bored", you've got a case.) I guess I just don't see how this comment is insulting or offensive. If the someone says "you must be terribly bored" to 100 people, I would think that most would confirm or deny that they are bored or asked "Why do you think I am bored?". I doubt that very many would feel insulted or offended. Apparently, some people can find anything offensive if they are determined to do so. Secondly, there is a difference between "defending" Ben's comment and disagreeing with your characterization that it was "inappropriate" in your first post and then "rude" in your second post. Next, I find this tactic of trying to censor others by claiming that comments they post offend you. As low as you have set the bar for taking umbrage at anything you disagree with as being "rude" is, at best, disconcerting.

Maybe my "rudeness" bar is too high. Recently, a respondent to a post about "big rig" owners took a previous post to be offensive. I didn't think the post they were refering to was offensive, but they did. I agreed with the many people who didn't think quoting another post to be rude, but do think using the posts on this site (without the posters knowledge) to write an article for another website to be rude. I think walking through other campsites (another thread here) is rude. I am sort of on the border between rude and not rude when it comes to making fun of the "typos" most of us make.

This disagreement is just another example of "You can't please everybody".l
HappiestCamper
My take - for someone to say polls are stupid, but go into a poll thread and saying someone else must be bored - how bored are you if you think polls are stupid yet participate in the thread? I know it was said in jest, but some people take everything literally.

You can't please everybody - those that post the most are the biggest targets. I personally have never been offended by any post - most of what is said is done in fun. JJ seems to always get things thrown at her, but she's a big girl and can handle it (and no, that is not an insult - big girl means a mature woman).

Now, can we go back to RV Park Reviews and Campground Discussion? At least that's what the title bar says in my browser. And I value all of your opinions regarding those subjects.
John Blue
I feel the same way as "HappiestCamper". We have a small war here over a post. The point of this web site is to post good information to each other and not to cut up like a group of kids. It I see a post that is not to my taste or liking I do not bit someone head off for it. We all pick up tons of great information here and I hope it stays that way. tongue.gif
Texasrvers
I think part of the problem here is because we cannot hear a person's tone of voice when they make a comment. Many times how a person says something can make a big difference in the meaning of their words. Ever heard the phrase: It's not what you said, but how you said it. I think a lot of comments made on this forum are meant to be in jest but the written words don't come across that way (even when the smilies icons are included). That's why writers must choose their words carefully and readers should give a little latitude and benefit of the doubt to the comments.

Butch


Well said Jerry S., could not agree with you more, have stated the same myself..........thank you..............
Big Ben
Do'nt you just love it?? One more time. Well said Jerry.
DXSMac
Ok, ok, this has gotten way out of hand, and blown way out of proportion.

Yes, the "you must be bored" comment upset me, the words came across to me like a slam, but I just took the position that I wasn't going to contribute to THIS thread any more. Thank you to those who attempted to defend me, but I would really like to just drop it........

And Texas was just doing her wonderful job as "Board Leader." It takes tact and diplomacy to be Board Leader. She does a good job.

JJ
Butch

Good Grief......
BJMA
while the car/toad came with OnStar, I have NEVER used it. I am thinking about getting into the box and pulling out the data for other uses.

I installed a dedicated computer in the MH with the primary reason to use Streets & Trips or MapPoint. I also use it for email and ham radio, so it is not just an expensive TomTom.

I think that I have printed maps out in the MH too, but not sure where I put them.

I even have topo maps on the computer.



www.jerichoprints.com
DavSuz
QUOTE(BBear @ Jan 19 2009, 05:42 PM) *

When I purchased my vehicle it came with OnStar and a years' free service. I didn't renew. I only used it a handful of times and just for the navigational service of which the few times I used it the directions were wrong. I do better with just a plain old map, LOL.

However, I am considering purchasing a hand-held GPS unit specifically for hiking...I hate compasses, LOL. And, may also start doing some geocaching. I went on a few geocaching adventures with some friends and had a blast.



Once you get a GPS, you won't leave home without it.
DXSMac
QUOTE(DavSuz @ Feb 6 2009, 06:37 PM) *

Once you get a GPS, you won't leave home without it.


NO kidding! I used to say, "I will NEVER do GPS, because I want to use a map and using a map helps keep my brain active, won't get alzheimers, blah blah blah....." but now I have a GPS and I do NOT leave home without it.

JJ
dog bone
i do a rand mc nally route. then i check a map. that works for me. in the past map quest took me out of my way where i new where i was. how bad was it doing where i didn't know.
my son use's gps. it took him on a road. not only off course, but not really good towing a 30' trailer.
i think i'll stay with what works for me.
RLM
A man truly needs a GPS because a woman canít read a map.

I read a medical article the other day that stated that in one day a woman will speak twice as many words as a man. The women say that is because they have to repeat every thing twice because men don't listen the first time.

Guess it all works out in the end.

Texasrvers
QUOTE

A man truly needs a GPS because a woman canít read a map.



Oh wow! You have that backwards, don't you. Men need a GPS to show them directions because they are the ones that can't read a map.

QUOTE
I read a medical article the other day that stated that in one day a woman will speak twice as many words as a man. The women say that is because they have to repeat every thing twice because men don't listen the first time.


Now that I agree with!


In light of all the less than friendly comments that have been posted recently, let me assure everyone that I am saying all this in a very lighted hearted manner. I'm just having some fun with RLM.
RLM
QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Feb 9 2009, 03:28 PM) *

In light of all the less than friendly comments that have been posted recently, let me assure everyone that I am saying all this in a very lighted hearted manner. I'm just having some fun with RLM.


With respect to the "less than friendly comments" I think of two adages: 1- Unkind words are like toothpaste. Easy to get out, but hard to go back in. 2- Opinions are like rear ends. Express too much of the first and one starts to look like the second.

Texasrver> I always assume it's all in fun when I'm being ribbed. Now since we're both Texans when do you want to have the gun fight - Is high noon ok? laugh.gif
DXSMac
QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Feb 9 2009, 03:28 PM) *

In light of all the less than friendly comments that have been posted recently, let me assure everyone that I am saying all this in a very lighted hearted manner. I'm just having some fun with RLM.


Glad you did it. If you hadn't I was going to!

JJ
Texasrvers
RLM,

High noon sounds good to me. And afterwards, if we're both still standing, we can have lunch. biggrin.gif
KentuckyCampin
I use a GPS and a gazeteer for the state we are in. Now that is the way to go!! If you like using maps, check out the gazeteers!! Best bang for the buck IMO!!
pianotuna
Hi All,

Due to one of my piano tuning clients I found out that the Microsoft Streets and Trips maps have not been updated since before 1993! So much for the hype of "buying the latest" map each year! I'll wait until a few more years have passed!
Big Ben
QUOTE(DavSuz @ Feb 6 2009, 06:37 PM) *

Once you get a GPS, you won't leave home without it.

That is not at all true. I have 3 GPSs. I use them in the Kayaks, In the boat and on the atv. I think they are a total waste of time in the MH or PU.
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