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Texasrvers
I've read several reviews lately where the person was upset because they were not escorted to their site. That has never made a difference to us, but I am wondering what the rest of you think. Is this a service that you expect a campground to provide?
Lindsay Richards
I am happy with a map with a line and an X on it. Sometimes we will select a different site and ask via phone if we can take that one. Lots of the people driving the golf cart don't understand our turning radius and our heights. We try to not get too concerned on the little stuff like this as camping is too much fun to let a little thing like an escort to your site bother you. I'd really rather go it alone than have a pushy, know it all type that you sometimes get as an escort.
AlinerCamper
QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Jul 11 2009, 12:44 PM) *

Is this a service that you expect a campground to provide?

As far as the escort is concerned I can take it or leave it. What upsets me is when the escort insists upon giving me the directions on how I'm to back into the site. My wife and I have our system which works well.
HappiestCamper
I agree with Lindsay, map (accurate map) is sufficient.

If you ever watched "The Long Trailer" with Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, there is one escort I would not want. They pulled into a park, and someone at the park drove their car and setup their trailer for them. The problem is the employee was somewhat hefty, and had just been trimming some hedges, without a shirt. He got in their car, still shirtless, and drove it. Yuck.
Tom
I have always been curious about an "escort" to a site... we have never had one! Is it more common outside of the Northeast, or have we just not been to campgrounds that have escorts?
nedmtnman
QUOTE(AlinerCamper @ Jul 11 2009, 04:58 PM) *

As far as the escort is concerned I can take it or leave it. What upsets me is when the escort insists upon giving me the directions on how I'm to back into the site. My wife and I have our system which works well.


I agree with this. Sometimes the escort is a pain. Most don't know what it takes to back a long 5er with a long bed truck. I mostly ignore them and do it my way. The ones I appreciate are the ones that show you where the site is and leave.
gilda
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Texasrvers
Now that some others have given their opinion I will comment on my own question: Do you expect a campground to escort you to your site?

We think this can be a nice service, but we do not expect it, and I would not lower a rating if a cg did not provide it. We can get along nicely with a map. We think we can position our coach and hook up our utilities better than someone who is unfamiliar with our coach, so if we are escorted we prefer that they just show us the spot and leave. Some escorts have pointed out where the utilities are, and some have offered to help us set up, but fortunately we have never had anyone who was pushy or who gave us bad parking/backing directions. I do remember one time the escort pointed out a slope to the site and made a suggestion how to park. That was helpful. I also remember one time when there were several people checking in at the same time and things got really backed up because of the escorting. I do not think a park should let that happen.

Tom, I do not know if escorting is more common in certain areas of the country than others. The majority of parks we've stayed at have not provided an escort. It also does not seem to depend on how expensive or up scale the park is. The most expensive place we ever stayed did not escort, but some much lower priced parks did.

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If they reserve and say I'm "new at this", we will note it and offer help at check in.
Gilda, this sounds like a great policy. This way you can help the newbies and let the experienced RVers do their own thing.

It just seemed unusual to me that some reviewers expected this service, but now I see that many do not care if it is offered or not. Thanks for your replies. They have been interesting to read.





mdcamping
QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Jul 11 2009, 12:44 PM) *

I've read several reviews lately where the person was upset because they were not escorted to their site. That has never made a difference to us, but I am wondering what the rest of you think. Is this a service that you expect a campground to provide?


I don't expect it, but I've been to a couple of campgrounds where the campground maps are so poorly drawn out, no road signs and poorly marked site numbers where it made it difficult for us to find our campsite.

Maybe that was the case in the reviews and they thought the campground should provide an escort.

Mike
Texasrvers
QUOTE(mdcamping @ Jul 12 2009, 06:28 PM) *

I don't expect it, but I've been to a couple of campgrounds where the campground maps are so poorly drawn out, no road signs and poorly marked site numbers where it made it difficult for us to find our campsite.

Maybe that was the case in the reviews and they thought the campground should provide an escort.

Mike


That could certainly be true and if so they may have had a valid complaint and a reason to lower the rating. Good point.
Lindsay Richards
If the husband and wife park the coach, it gives them a great chance to yell at each other.
dog bone
i have only been to one where i received an escort. he showed me the site and where the hook ups are. he asked if we needed help. i said take my wife for a ride on your golf cart and bring here back in 10 min. just kidding. we said we would be fine and he left.
i have also been to one where you needed one. at night, no signs and a lot of turns.
my thought is, you should know your own park. if you think someone might need an escort ask if the want one and give the reason. if it is dark and not a very good map and a lot of turns it might be better to give them an escort.
dancyn
We try to escort everyone to their sites for a couple of reasons. One is it gives us the opportunity to show the guests where the utilities are. Another reason is to protect those utilities. We don't direct the backing process unless the driver is having problems. But I like someone to stay with them until they are parked to make sure they do not take out a water hydrant, do not park over the grass, and do not park so their slides come out over the neighbors grass area.

I can't think of much worse than someone coming back to the office to say they ran over the water hydrant. Not only does it become a very costly situation, but it becomes a big hassle for everyone when a whole line of sites loses their water for a few hours.

I guided one gentleman to his site and stayed until he was parked. I showed him the utilities and left. About 10 minutes later he came in to the office and said he had hit a tree. He had decided he wanted to be 6" closer to the patio, so he backed up 15' onto my lawn and knocked over a tree. Did he offer to make restitution? Of course not. It cost me $150 to rent him a site for $30.

I know accidents do happen, but I feel we minimize them by escorting folks to their site.
Butch


I can relate to the pros and cons of "escorts" to your campsite. If we are in a Cg for the first time, one we want to see the site first, two, we request an escort but only if they refuse to show us the site. Have seen Cgs with poor/confusing/missing signage where a camper has proceeded the wrong direction, signage on the other end of the row, and can not find his site. Nothing worse than driving to your assigned site and find someone already set up there. An escort would certainly correct both of these situations, but to each his own........
coacbcps
This is an interesting question. My husband and I went on our first camping trip in our new pop up about two weeks ago. The campgound we stayed at escorted us to our site and helped my husband back up the pop up. We thought that this was a GREAT service! The second campground we stayed at did not escort us or offer to escort us to our site. I gave this campground a rating of 9 instead of 10 because of this. Their map was so microscopic and confusing that it took us two sweeps of the area where we thought our site was located. This particular campground really needs to at least offer the service or invest in better maps. I am glad this topic was introduced because my husband and I thought that every campground did this and now I know better. I guess once we camp more often we will get better at finding our site and backing into it. I think it's a good suggestion to put down whether or not you would like this service when booking. I know I will probably put it down for the next few times, I certainly would NOT want to be one of those campers that takes out the water or electrical system and as a newbie this is definitely a possiblity.
dustytuu
Depends on the park and how big or how small. We can park and hook up just fine without help. But when pulling into a RV park with 250 + sites with a poorly written map, can be difficult. In that instance an escort would be nice.
rgatijnet
I don't mind an escort when I get one and even appreciate a staff member telling me when I have gotten my rig into proper position. Not a big deal for me as I always consider myself a guest at their park.
I also really like the RV parks that transported me around in their golf cart to pick out my site BEFORE we finished the check-in. I only had this happen at one park but it was really appreciated. I have had parks tell me to pick out any site that I wanted as long as there was not a reserved sign on it. Not bad but it can cause problems with rigs driving all around the park, especially when others are trying to check in.
danel-ksc
Having an escort to your site is a personal thing. Some people feel more comfortable being shown where their site is and some really appreciate help in siting their RV. Other people don't.
Some Campgrounds really believe they are providing their guests a service with the escort.
If you tell the escort you really don't need help siting your RV they are usually more than happy to return to the office.
Trentheim
The last park I stayed at provided an escort. I didn't need one, since the site was visible from the office and to get to it all I needed to do was enter the gate, turn right, turn right again, and drive straight onto the concrete pad.

My wife who was driving the rental car right behind me, however, needed the escort. She got stuck at the gate for a few minutes before she realized how to use the magnetic card to activate it. Then she drove deep into the park and looped around it several times.

I had to phone her after I'd already hooked up the water, sewer, cable, and electric. All while keeping my three year old from running all over the park in her delight to get out of the child safety seat.

So, I guess getting an escort is really a personal thing. I personally don't mind them, even when it's obvious on how to get from point A to point B. In retrospect, I should have asked for the guy in the golf cart to lead my wife to the site instead of me.

J
Cheryl
Let's see, you set up camp and kept your 3 year old entertained all while your wife was lost driving around the campground? Sounds like a pretty smart woman to me. laugh.gif
rangiebob
We've been to both, with and without an escort. The only time it bugs us to have an escort is at the RV parks where we've been to several times and they know us, yet they still feel the need to escort us, which makes no sense.
alaskacampingfamily
I haven't read all the replies, but wanted to add my experience. My parents owned a KOA campground for 15 years. My sister and I were the employees, and we ALWAYS walked everybody to their site. Why? Well, our insurance carrier required it, and my father also thought it was good customer service. Some people got offended, some people loved it. We never insinuated that our customers couldn't drive, but honestly, there were MANY times that our trees would have been hit had we not walked people to their sites. Many, many times. We also had to direct/witness the people pulling on to our sites - it was a CYA that saved us many times when drivers hit trees and tried to sue us for the repairs. If they had listened to our directions, they wouldn't have hit the trees. But try to get an old retired full time RV'er to listen to a 16 year old girl when she says "swing wide". I've also had people hand me the keys and say you pull it/back it in when they see the site. Good thing my father taught me to drive backwards first, with a 20' flatbed trailer on, and with the rearview mirror covered up. I could only use the side mirrors. I drove in reverse all over those 20 acres of roads/sites for months before I ever got to actually drive forward. And you know what, that is how I'm going to teach my kids to drive, too!
danel-ksc
I don't believe most RV'rs, including me, realize how many Campground Rules and actions are as a direct result of insurance requirements placed on the Campground.
Kirk
We have been to parks who escort and some that do not. Either way is fine with me but the escort is nice if the park is large with winding roads. We stayed in one park in California once where there was no escort and we parked and drove our towd to find the site because the route was very complicated. Then it would have been really nice to have the guide.

What I do not like and refuse to use is the person that in some parks insists upon directing you into your site. Over the nearly ten years that we have been fulltimers we have developed a way around these people. My wife just goes out well behind employee who is doing the arm waving and talks to me quietly by radio and I simply ignore the fool.

We have seen far too many cases where and RV was directed into a tree limb or other obstruction by a park employee. They don't want to pay for the repairs so let me park myself. If you fear for your utilities, you are quite welcome to stand over them while I park, but let us do things our way. This is our home and we don't need or want some new employee directing us.
Texasrvers
From what I've read since I started this thread (thanks for all the great replies), most people would like an escort if it is a big park or if the roads are confusing. Otherwise they can find the site themselves. Most experienced RVers prefer to park their rig their own way and can probably do so with out any problem. In many cases these people know more about backing and/or positioning an RV than the employee does.

From the park's view they might need to send an escort because of their insurance, and/or they may want to send an escort to watch over their utilities and landscaping. After all not everyone handles a rig equally well, and even the best of drivers have accidents once in a while.

The problem I see is how does the RVer know about the park's insurance policy that requires them to send an escort, and how does the park know how well the RVer can drive which dictates whether he may or may not need an escort?
dancyn
Ummm......gee, Kirk. Considering the employees to be fools should get you off to a good start in any park. You can talk with your wife on the radio, and I will stand there and protect my utilities. If you get it parked the way I want it parked, I will jump in my golf cart and leave you to have a good time. But if you are out over my grass or infringing on the neighboring sites, I will ask you to make adjustments.

As a fulltimer, I was guided into a tree one time. Whose fault was it? It was mine, because I wasn't paying attention. I wanted to be upset with the lady guiding me, but in the end, I realized if I would have been watching instead of talking, I would have noticed the branch hanging down.
gilda
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pianotuna
Hi Gilda,

Well, let us all know the name of your park. That way we can all avoid a conflict.
gilda
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Lindsay Richards
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Well, let us all know the name of your park. That way we can all avoid a conflict.


I have been trying to get that info for years. She claims to have met me in the Florida panhandle, but I don't remember.


gatordan
We don't need to be escorted as we listen to the registrar while they're giving directions and we study the campground map before proceeding. Unfortunately, some people don't and meander all around wondering where their site is! Also, I prefer my wife park me as we have a good routine (signals, etc) that we've used for 17 years.
gilda
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RLM
For every courteous and competent escort, there is always two or three of those who:

1-Use hand and arm signals that even a Navy carrier pilot couldn’t decifer.
2-Races off in front of you like he’s the pole position at a Nascar event.
3-Takes the long scenic route thru the camp ground thru the lowest hanging tree branches.
4-Doesn’t under stand that I don’t need to be within microns of the connections for the hoses and lines to reach them.
5-Doesn't have that little gyro thing in their head recognizes level ground.
6-Have some toy ranger badge fixed to their hat implying authority.

I’ve found it best to have a little tolerance for the process, stop short of the site, tell the guide we’ll take it from here, and thank them for their help.


QUOTE(Lindsay Richards @ Jul 12 2009, 07:47 PM) *

If the husband and wife park the coach, it gives them a great chance to yell at each other.


And if you're already set up in the campground, that's a great spectator sport.
Texasrvers
QUOTE(RLM @ Aug 4 2009, 11:53 AM) *

it best to have a little tolerance for the process, stop short of the site, tell the guide we’ll take it from here, and thank them for their help.



This sounds good to me. I almost always stop short of the site so that I can get out to see where the utilities are located and to check out how level the site is. This avoids a lot of repositioning which I especially don't want to do it I'm not intending to unhook the toad.
FosterImposters
QUOTE(RLM @ Aug 4 2009, 09:53 AM) *

...And if you're already set up in the campground, that's a great spectator sport.


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Now don't tell ALL the secrets!
nicki
Funny this was brought up...just two days ago we were "escorted" to our site. The grandma-type lady offered to let my two daughters ride along in the golf cart, which they thought was THE BEST. So did we until she sped off! We just stopped and waited for her to realize she had gone too fast, and come back for us, but after several minutes she did not return! Without a map (they never gave us one) and more than a little nervous now (because a complete stranger has sped off with our kids!!) we decide to just proceed and maybe the campground makes one big obvious loop and we would catch up with them. Not the case--we ended up down a dead-end lane of tenters with our 29 foot trailer. So we became the evening's entertainment as we backed down this tiny lane. It was actually good that the kids were not in the vehicle--a few choice words may have been uttered at this point. wink.gif It was not until we were almost all way backed out, with the help of random tenters along the way, that the "escorter" returned with our kids. My daughter said she kept telling the lady that she was going too fast and she just kept going faster. Not the perfect end to a full day of driving, but at least we can laugh about it now.

Normally we LOVE to be escorted however. Usually it works out just great!! I too would never rate a CG lower for not providing an escort, unless there was a good reason that one SHOULD have been provided.
RockHound
I've never had an escort to a site, ever. Is this just a service for motor homes or extremely large pull behinds? As long as the sites have numbers, just give me a map and my trusty navigator-the wife smile.gif - and I'll be fine.
denbroncs
Sometimes it is not necessary, but in large camps it is certainly nice. I think the KOA in Colorado Springs was the first to "escort" us to our site. Yeah, we would have found it, but after a long day on the road it was great to have this service.
jchapman
Honestly, we have had an escort at several of the cg's we have stayed at...I appreciate them because especially when it is a new cg for us or when its dark..also, I try to occupy the kids inside who are so excited to get out of the motorhome so my husband does actually get help from the escort at times...trust me, I would much rather someone else get the job than I...its often not a good way for husband and wife to start off there camping adventure...

John316
So far escorts are not necessary, unless there is no map. However, at times, they can be to helpful.

YMMV

God bless,

John
Tom
Just had my first "escort" last weekend! Very nice campground (Odetah, in Bozrah, Connecticut), and they escort you to your site and guide you in. The escort was nice because he took me up and around (instead of the quickest way to the site), so it was easy to back the trailer in.

It was nice to have an escort, but I don't think it was "necessary".
mdcamping
QUOTE(Tom @ Sep 10 2009, 01:44 PM) *

Just had my first "escort" last weekend! Very nice campground (Odetah, in Bozrah, Connecticut), and they escort you to your site and guide you in. The escort was nice because he took me up and around (instead of the quickest way to the site), so it was easy to back the trailer in.

It was nice to have an escort, but I don't think it was "necessary".


We pulled in to Odetah a few yrs back at dusk and our site was in the front part of the campground. I couldn't see as well and with all the hilly grades the escort made it so much less stressful which I was glad for.

We loved the campground also...plan on returning again this fall

Mike
James C
I had a funny one (not funny at the time) in San Angelo, TX, where the escort directed me through a tight area right into a car as he was waving me into the site. As I was watching him waving me to the right I felt a bump from the back left and found out that he had me swing the back left of our motorhome into a parked car. A crowd gathered back there and then he took off and didn't even bother to apologize. I got out (and did apologize to the owner) and managed to pop out the dent in the car (it was a plastic fender) and managed to rub off the mark on it with some claybar and detailing fluid. So the car owner was happy but then I had to do some bigger repairs on the RV where a fiberglass part had dislodged from the back. And we never heard anything from the escort for the rest of the stay. blink.gif
retirednrving
Escorts? Do they expect to be tipped? Have you ever tipped an escort? We recently returned from a 3 week trip to the west coast. In a campground in Nevada our escort wouldn't leave, he reminded me of a bell boy at a hotel who was waiting for a tip. I've never had an escort act this way, it was uncomfortable. I didn't tip him and he finally left. If I should, from now on I will. He didn't do anything special and guided me in so that the set up was more difficult then usual. We have had several and some did and offered alot more than he did, but none acted as if they wanted a tip.
Texasrvers
You've raised a great question. I don't know if they expect it, but we have never tipped an escort and honestly the thought never occurred to us that we should. I can see the similarity to a bell hop, but unless there are a lot of rvers who do tip we will probably not start.
dalsgal
A friend of ours was at a fancy campground in SC and he was told the rule was that he get escorted to his site and then the escort had to back his camper into the spot for him. The friend wasn't thrilled with this but agreed. The escort backed the camper into a small pole, knocked it over and then the campground charged our friend $50 for the damage.

In a large campground an escort is nice but in a small one I don't see the necessity for it. I have walked people to their spots in our small campground, offered my help if necessary but have never been offered a tip and wouldn't accept one if offered. Helping people is part of my job and I wouldn't do it if I didn't enjoy it.

The only thing that would be nice would be if the people posted a good review or complimented me to my boss.
James C
QUOTE(dalsgal @ Sep 26 2009, 02:25 PM) *

A friend of ours was at a fancy campground in SC and he was told the rule was that he get escorted to his site and then the escort had to back his camper into the spot for him. The friend wasn't thrilled with this but agreed. The escort backed the camper into a small pole, knocked it over and then the campground charged our friend $50 for the damage.

In a large campground an escort is nice but in a small one I don't see the necessity for it. I have walked people to their spots in our small campground, offered my help if necessary but have never been offered a tip and wouldn't accept one if offered. Helping people is part of my job and I wouldn't do it if I didn't enjoy it.

The only thing that would be nice would be if the people posted a good review or complimented me to my boss.


That's crazy that they charged the friend when the escort backed it in. They should have charged the campground for the damage to the RV. Reminds me of the escort that directed us right into a parked car and then left. Your approach sounds good, hope to visit your campground some day.
Stan-n-Karen

I think the person at the desk where you check-in should ask if you need or desire an escort to your site. By dong this, the person who normally escorts can continue working at whatever they are involved with. Those that don't want or need an escort won't be tieing up that person for no reason, and those that do need the service will be better served. Also, while at the desk, those checking in can take a look at the map they have just been handed. They should be able to desern at that time if the map is worth the paper it's printed on, or if an escort would be the best way to go. Additionally, while we are on the escort subject, if one is going to escort... SLOW DOWN to the posted speeds that we are required to comply with. How often have you climbed back into your rig, and watch the escort head off into the park. If you're driving a big diesel rig, it takes a few secconds for all the relays to close before you can even think about starting correctly. Meanwhile the escort is 1/4 mile down the path. I suppose they may be in a hurry because it's hot, they may have more rigs to be escorted, whatever, but give the drivers a little time to get back in their rigs, seated,and ready to pull forward. Pesonnally I don't try to rush to catch the escort, but I have watched others, and they do exceed, by a large margin, the posted park speed limits.
As an added note... we just completed a 5 month trip around the country, hitting 44 of the lower 48 states, it was a mixed bag on escorts. Seemingly, the largest percentage of those who did have escorts were on the on the East or West coasts. Many in the middle states did not, and some around the Gulf coast didn't either. My personal preferance... hand me a good map with my site marked, and recommended route there.
T Lynn
QUOTE(AlinerCamper @ Jul 11 2009, 06:58 PM) *

As far as the escort is concerned I can take it or leave it. What upsets me is when the escort insists upon giving me the directions on how I'm to back into the site. My wife and I have our system which works well.



I'm in full agreement here. If the escort is a must by management, we're ok with that. Just golf cart us to our site number and we'll handle it from there. We always check out the site prior to pulling/backing in and know how we want our unit on the site. We know the lengths of sewer hose and water hose we own and how far our electrical cord will go. Leave us to our routine and we'll be happy campers. biggrin.gif
c31245
We don't need an escort. Rather they spent the time cleaning up the parks/sites.

QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Jul 11 2009, 12:44 PM) *

I've read several reviews lately where the person was upset because they were not escorted to their site. That has never made a difference to us, but I am wondering what the rest of you think. Is this a service that you expect a campground to provide?

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