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DXSMac
I've had an air card (or more correctly, cellular modem) for a year now. Generally, you are limited to 5 Gig a month for a flat rate. So, the question is...... how fast do you use up 5 Gig?

Here is my experience.

If all you do is surf the net and read email, every day, and nothing else, you won't exceed even ONE gig. Or, you may get to barely over 1 Gig.

The "hogs" are downloading movies, and streaming music.

When I camp hosted last year, I was at a place with no TV reception. I HAD to watch "24." So, I downloaded it. A "one hour" episode downloaded will use up 400 meg.

Recently, I started streaming music on Pandora (there is another one called Rhapsody). I discovered that one hour of streaming music, every day, uses up 100 meg EACH DAY.

So far, the most I have used up is 2 GIG in a month (when I streamed music), but I generally average 900 meg a month, usually never exceed 1 GIG.

I know most of the RV parks have WiFi. If you can live with that, fine, and then there is the occasional one or two days where you boondock and live without it, or stay somewhere cheap and live without it.

But if you want to get a cellular modem, that's my experience, yours may be different.

JJ
John Blue
JJ,

Great information to have. No one we have talked to had this information.
pianotuna
Hi JJ,

That's good information to have. Be aware that there is some "overhead" that doesn't show up--until the bill arrives.

My usual usage with no extraordinary downloads averages 7.5 gigs per month.

Fortunately, in Canada, I have an unlimited Cellular Modem account.

Unfortunately that turns into $3.00 per meg as soon as I cross the USA border sad.gif
DXSMac
My Verizon modem has a way to "check" every day how much has been used up so far. I just remember what it was the previous day and when I check the next morning, it's like, "ok, I used up 100 meg doing THAT thing......."

JJ
Denali
On the forums devoted to this subject, the most common usage reported is 1-2 GB per month.

I didn't realize that a one-hour TV show consumed 400 MB. No wonder some folks are hobbled by the 5 GB monthly limit that the carriers impose!
dalsgal
We don't download a lot but we both leave our computers online pretty much all the time. Hubby writes websites and does web hosting. I sit in the office of our CG (we are managers) and it is boring so I take my laptop with me and play on it all the time. We use between 5-6 gigs a month even with all that online time.
RLM
I'm in the 30 day trial period for my cell system. It's a Mi-Fi card. I'm online several hours a day, but don't download many large files and am not even close to the 5GB.

But if my math isn't fuzzy, then I calculate one could only do about 12-13 hour long tv shows at 400mb each and half that for a movie.

Lonesoldier
For the technicly handicapped, of the older generation, explain meg, gig, mi-fi. blink.gif
PLEASE
pianotuna
Hi Lonesoldier,

1 megabyte = 1000 kilobytes
1 gigabyte = 1000 megabytes

a mifi is a wireless router that allows a connection to the internet using cell phone frequencies and allows a laptop or other device to connect to it.

I use about 7.5 gigabytes in a typical month.

I hope this helps.

QUOTE(Lonesoldier @ Feb 8 2010, 08:34 PM) *

For the technicly handicapped, of the older generation, explain meg, gig, mi-fi. blink.gif
PLEASE

FosterImposters
Thanks for asking Lonesoldier.
As a US schooled boomer, educated in the era of Fortran, I am very glad there are pianotuna's out there who can keep me on the right path: kilo to mega to giga.

Is there a next level: 1000 gigabytes = ?
HappiestCamper
QUOTE(FosterImposters @ Feb 9 2010, 12:09 AM) *

Thanks for asking Lonesoldier.
As a US schooled boomer, educated in the era of Fortran, I am very glad there are pianotuna's out there who can keep me on the right path: kilo to mega to giga.

Is there a next level: 1000 gigabytes = ?

terabyte
Trentheim
1000 bytes = 1 kilobyte
1000 kilobytes = 1 Megabyte
1000 Megabytges = 1 Gigabyte
1000 Gigabytes = 1 Terabyte
1000 Terabytes = 1 Petabyte
1000 Petabytes = 1 Exabyte
1000 Exabytes = 1 Zettabyte
1000 Zettabytes = 1 Yottabyte

My digital camera takes a 10 million pixel (megapixel) picture which requires an average of 2.04 Mb of storage space. This means that on a a 5 Gb download limit would cut you off after you downloaded 2451 pictures of exactly this size.

However, nothing on the Web is linear or consistent. Sometimes an image is much smaller, sometimes much larger. Text actually takes up memory (although not much), and things like Flash, Quicktime, etc... can become memory hogs, especially if they're programmed poorly, which will eat into your download limits.

But watching television programs and/or movies will quickly use up a 5 Gb limit.

Just adding a little more geekery to the thread!

JT3
John Blue
Lets tune it up a bit.

1 Megabyte is 1024 KB's
1 Gigabyte is 1,048,576 KB's
1 Terabyte is 1,073,741,824 KB's
1 Petabyte is 1,099,511,627,776 KB's

What is next a Commodore 64?
Lindsay Richards
Hey John, those Commodore 64's were pretty neat.
Lonesoldier
Thanks for the terminology. Probab;y will never understand all of it.
RLM
QUOTE(FosterImposters @ Feb 8 2010, 09:09 PM) *

Thanks for asking Lonesoldier.
As a US schooled boomer, educated in the era of Fortran, ....


Hey, I'm right there with you. How about Basic and Cobol. I once owned a Sinclair 1000. Oh man I'm old!!!
Lindsay Richards
The hard drive on my first Epson computer was a microcassette tape. Took 2 1/2 minutes for reel to real for 10 K. I thought I was in heaven. I wrote a 16 K program in Basic and had to run it at work. I got a Tandy handheld and had to input it all with the keyboard. I have a 160 gig hard drive now and think it is too small.
Lee and Fran
I bought a Verizon Card last year just to test it out as compared to my satellite system. If I am going to You tube, news pages, or down loading music I can burn thru 5 gig in a month easily. Thats part of the reason I am trying it. With my Satellite system I am allow 250 megs a day in downloads and when I am doing all of the above I go thru 250 megs easily and get locked out of the net for 24 hours there after. It does not take a lot of news or you tubes to make 250 megs. As for downloading anything larger than the 250 we have to go use the net between 2 and 5 am. Other wise we have to use the verizon card.
Sunny_0ne
I usually use 2.5 to 3 GB a month on my Verizon Air Card.

I don't download movies, but do watch a lot of YouTube videos, download a program now and then, and surf a lot.

Only one month in over three years did I come close to 5 GB.
DXSMac
March was the first month I "held my breath" on my air card. I was camp hosting the entire month. When I was in Kentucky last summer for two months, I never exceeded 1 gig per month, all I did was email and net surfing. Didn't do TV shows or music streaming.

However, during March, I was in a place with no TV reception. So, I HAD to watch "24." Hey, it's the last season! Gotta watch Jack!

Well, between streaming "24" every Tuesday morning (three "one hour" episodes and one "two hour" episode) and streaming music (one of my friends got me hooked on this) every day, I still stayed UNDER the 5 gig limit, but BARELY!

Limit is 5 gig, I used 4.8 gig. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif

Glad I'm a "Solo." If I would have had someone else sharing the air card with me (like a spouse or whatever) would not have been a good thing.

JJ
coacbcps
QUOTE(Trentheim @ Feb 9 2010, 10:11 AM) *

1000 bytes = 1 kilobyte
1000 kilobytes = 1 Megabyte
1000 Megabytges = 1 Gigabyte
1000 Gigabytes = 1 Terabyte
1000 Terabytes = 1 Petabyte
1000 Petabytes = 1 Exabyte
1000 Exabytes = 1 Zettabyte
1000 Zettabytes = 1 Yottabyte

Where do they come up with these names? blink.gif Is this the metric version of million, billion, trillion, etc? What do those prefixes mean? unsure.gif I know kilo is 1000 and mega means "large; great". What exactly is giga-, tera-, peta-, exa-, and zetta-? I'm looking in my daughter's dictionary and apparently these techno terms are not listed.
Bud in Florida
I have had a verizon card for 2 years and just switched to a cell phone that can act as a hot spot. My wife does on line teaching and I spend a lot of time on line looking at campground reviews etc. No streaming video or music and we have never used more than a couple of Gbs.
joez
We have a Sprint aircard that we use with a Cradlepoint router. Two of us use computers, with a very limited amount of videos, music, etc downloads. The router with aircard is on most of the time. Luckily we are still grandfathered with unlimited usage. So far this month (with 8 days remaining) we have used 5,456,847 KB (Their billing statement says 1 GB = 1,048,576 KB). Even though we are entitled to new free aircard, we would have to revert to the 5 GB limit so we are still using our old Sierra. A Sprint rep did tell me during a phone conversation that the 4G cards will not have usage limits, but as of now there is limited 4G coverage in areas where we are.
Lindsay Richards
On my new Verizon Droid phone, we have unlimited for $30 a month, it does surfing, but the screen size is restrictive.
Denali
QUOTE(Lindsay Richards @ Jun 2 2010, 02:54 PM) *

On my new Verizon Droid phone, we have unlimited for $30 a month, it does surfing, but the screen size is restrictive.
You know you can tether it and use it as a modem, right? PdaNet for Droid

It works very well using the USB cable, but I can't get it to work with Bluetooth. Others, however, have reported using PdaNet with Bluetooth, so it's probably a driver conflict with my Bluetooth dongle.
Lindsay Richards
Do I understand this to mean, I can use the Droid to hook up my laptop to the Verizon internet netwowrk?
Denali
QUOTE(Lindsay Richards @ Jun 6 2010, 10:30 AM) *

Do I understand this to mean, I can use the Droid to hook up my laptop to the Verizon internet netwowrk?
Sorry I didn't reply sooner, Lindsay. I haven't checked in since you posted.

Yes, with PdaNet you hook your Droid to your laptop using a USB cable. The Droid will act as a modem, just like any other cellular data device. You use your Droid's Verizon Internet connection. You will get the same speed on your laptop as you do using the Droid by itself on the Internet.

Feel free to contact me off-list if you want more details: denali@alaska.net.

There is also a good Yahoo forum on this topic, for any cell phone: Internet By Cell Phone (I am the owner of the forum.)
Lindsay Richards
It has a USB adapter on the computer end, what does it have on the Droid end?
Denali
QUOTE(Lindsay Richards @ Jun 12 2010, 05:28 PM) *

It has a USB adapter on the computer end, what does it have on the Droid end?
The Droid uses a standard micro USB cable. It ships with a cable, but many folks buy a longer one.
Lindsay Richards
My charge has a micro USB on one end and a regular USB on the other. i thought it was for charging from the computer. Thanks, now I know. I guess I should actually read the instruction manual.
Denali
QUOTE(Lindsay Richards @ Jun 13 2010, 03:36 PM) *

My charge has a micro USB on one end and a regular USB on the other. i thought it was for charging from the computer. Thanks, now I know. I guess I should actually read the instruction manual.
It will not only charge from the computer, you can also use the USB cable to transfer files, e.g., pictures, from the Droid to the computer.

I regularly copy a couple of spreadsheets from the computer to the Droid so I can have them with me for reference.
Lindsay Richards
I guess when I hook it up, go to Windows Explorer, and turn it onm then it will appear as a devise with a drive letter like a camera or other external devise.
Denali
QUOTE(Lindsay Richards @ Jun 14 2010, 06:12 PM) *

I guess when I hook it up, go to Windows Explorer, and turn it onm then it will appear as a devise with a drive letter like a camera or other external devise.
That's correct.

The Droid will prompt you to connect as a disk drive when you connect the USB cable.
JDRobar
If there are people out there that still have a question in their mind as to what a Gig is, here's a translation that may help:

100 MB = 5 hrs on the web, or 25 min streaming video, or 10,000 average emails
250 MB = 12 hrs on the web, or 1 hour streaming video, or 25,000 average emails
600 MB = 30 hrs on the web, or 2.5 hrs streaming video, or 60,000 average emails
1 GB = 50 hrs on the web, or 4 hrs streaming videos, or 100,000 average emails

So unless you are using netflicks as your prime source of entertainment, a 5 gig prepaid MIFI (mobile personal wifi) each month should do the job.
DXSMac
Thanks! I have ONLY ONCE come close to 5 gig, I ended up with 4.99999 one month. That is back when "24" (the TV show) was on, and I was camp hosting, no TV reception, had to watch it, and there were some 2 hour episodes that month. Otherwise, I average 2.5 gig, and I'm on the internet a lot. I have downloaded songs from I-Tunes. Surprisingly, they didn't affect my gig much.

There has been times I streamed music from pandora.com, pretty much uses up 100 meg an hour.

JJ

QUOTE(JDRobar @ Jun 12 2011, 07:21 PM) *

If there are people out there that still have a question in their mind as to what a Gig is, here's a translation that may help:

100 MB = 5 hrs on the web, or 25 min streaming video, or 10,000 average emails
250 MB = 12 hrs on the web, or 1 hour streaming video, or 25,000 average emails
600 MB = 30 hrs on the web, or 2.5 hrs streaming video, or 60,000 average emails
1 GB = 50 hrs on the web, or 4 hrs streaming videos, or 100,000 average emails

So unless you are using netflicks as your prime source of entertainment, a 5 gig prepaid MIFI (mobile personal wifi) each month should do the job.

jim crowl
QUOTE(JDRobar @ Jun 12 2011, 09:21 PM) *

If there are people out there that still have a question in their mind as to what a Gig is, here's a translation that may help:

100 MB = 5 hrs on the web, or 25 min streaming video, or 10,000 average emails
250 MB = 12 hrs on the web, or 1 hour streaming video, or 25,000 average emails
600 MB = 30 hrs on the web, or 2.5 hrs streaming video, or 60,000 average emails
1 GB = 50 hrs on the web, or 4 hrs streaming videos, or 100,000 average emails

So unless you are using netflicks as your prime source of entertainment, a 5 gig prepaid MIFI (mobile personal wifi) each month should do the job.



That's a good guide. I think you are safe unless you are doing a lot of Netflix downloads or similar. I had the Sprint unlimited internet for several years, but it was rare that I used over 2 GB. Even the month I watched quite a few old rerun shows, due to lack of tv reception, it was only about 3.5 GB. Earlier this year I switched from unlimited to their 5 GB plan which was cheaper, as I figured I would never use over 5 GB.
rgatijnet
On our last trip, we found that we did use 5 gig in 28 days. We do not download any movies, but the wife and I will both download our emails and do some surfing. I will even post a RV park review on here while we are on the road. We use the Verizon card, and I can check daily usage, BUT, how do I know that Verizon is accurately calculating my usage?
When I used to tether my cell phone for internet access, Verizon once charged me almost $500 for data usage for one month. This was when I had my unlimited data contract from Alltel, which Verizon purchased. Thank goodness I caught it before they automatically deducted that amount with my auto pay. I since canceled my cell phone service with Verizon but still use my air card, on a prepaid month to month basis.
Since I refused to pay Verizon because of my contract with Alltel, they eventually stopped hassling me. They never would admit that they were wrong and that my Alltel contract, which I had used for almost 2 years, would be honored. Naturally my letter from Verizon during the Alltel purchase, was that they would honor all parts of your existing Alltel contracts. Ignore them enough and they do go away. biggrin.gif
I guess what I am saying is that even tho you may monitor your daily usage, you are still at the mercy of the provider to insure that they correctly charge you for what you actually use. There really is no way to argue with them. It becomes your word against theirs.
DXSMac
QUOTE(rgatijnet @ Jul 23 2011, 03:56 PM) *

I since canceled my cell phone service with Verizon but still use my air card, on a prepaid month to month basis.


Wow. Someone told me that they couldn't get an air card unless they had the cell phone.

I have air card, cell phone, and wireless landline. My cell phone is pretty much redundant with the Wireless Landline (Home Phone Connect) service.

JJ
Lindsay Richards
Our current Verizon Droid has an unlimited data plan and I can tether it to my laptop so we can get service. (a little slow). They have stopped offering the unlimited plan though.
Denali
QUOTE(DXSMac @ Aug 2 2011, 05:26 PM) *

Wow. Someone told me that they couldn't get an air card unless they had the cell phone.
They were mistaken, at least regarding Verizon. They may have meant that you can't get a data plan on your cell phone without a voice plan.
QUOTE

I have air card, cell phone, and wireless landline. My cell phone is pretty much redundant with the Wireless Landline (Home Phone Connect) service.

JJ
When I googled Home Phone Connect, I came across this interesting article: Home Phone Connect. If you are going to keep your cell phone anyway and are willing to give up your land line number, it's an interesting alternative.

As I recall, you want to keep your land line number, though.
DXSMac
QUOTE(Denali @ Aug 10 2011, 09:27 AM) *

They were mistaken, at least regarding Verizon. They may have meant that you can't get a data plan on your cell phone without a voice plan.
When I googled Home Phone Connect, I came across this interesting article: Home Phone Connect. If you are going to keep your cell phone anyway and are willing to give up your land line number, it's an interesting alternative.

As I recall, you want to keep your land line number, though.


Interesting. But I don't know if that service will work in an RV. It appears you have to have a home phone.

In most states, Verizon gave up the land line service to Frontier. But in the states where Verizon kept the landlines, I'm hearing that people are being told they have to have a "real" landline to get Home Phone Connect. (Not true, I called Verizon on that...)

I'm happy so far with the Home Phone Connect, I got to keep my phone number. My cell phone is pretty much redundant!
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