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Fitzjohnfan
Ok, first I love this site and it's the first place to go when planning a trip to unfamiliar territory! Thanks for doing a great job!

2nd, This site can also be fun for entertainment value. Probably once a day I check out the new reviews and look at the bad reviews. Some of these can be very entertaining and it's amazing what some parks offer or don't offer and how they treat their paying customers. Sure some people just have a grudge or a bad experiance, but drunk park owners, junk everywhere, no maintenance, and/or charging incredible fees to stay in a "parking lot", makes for interesting reading.

I'm not encouraging bad reviews in any way, but when you see multiple reviews all saying the same bad things, it's amazing some of these parks stay open at all!.

I hope you all have good trips and keep up the good work.

Chris G.
1989 33' Southwind motorhome
nedmtnman
I too read this site daily and go to it first when planning a trip or taking a workamping job. Ilke reading reviews of campgrounds I have stayed at seeing the different perspectives.
John Blue
It has been said a number of times here read all the reviews as we all think in different ways. We wrote up a park in NM that was flat as a pan cake. Next review in said not one site in hold park was level. Now you think he was in the wrong park or I was in the wrong park. We were in park at time of write up so I hope we got it right. We see reviews come in all the time that this park had a pool and tress. All this is wrong as admins have been to lots of the same parks. We see parks come in with wrong state, wrong city, and wrong park name so what good is the review? At times you could say the beer was good but the review was bad. Have fun in RV life.
dmsscs
I, too, find some of the reviews entertaining. Especially for the parks I have visited and reviewed. Everyone has their own opinion or idea of what camping is to them. Sometimes I wonder if the bad reviews are ex-spouses of the campground owner or manager and the good reviews are written by the mother of the owner! Only when I see repeated poor reviews do I take them seriously and only for parks I have not visited personally. Some people don't like a lot of trees because they want better reception on their dish and others that think if there aren't a lot of trees then it ain't campin' Too much sap, not enough shade. The park is too hilly (especially in New England, so be sure to bring boards!) Ofcourse we all know the perfect site is near the pool, in the shade, with lots of lush grass (under all those trees?) with water, electric, sewer, cable, wifi and room service. What ever happened to communing with nature?
Tom
Yes, I am guilty! I check the reviews and look for the 1 star reviews first, lol.

We have yet to be at a campground that I would give a "1" to. Actually, I don't think I've rated any campground below a "6". I do have a good attitude when camping, because I am not working!

NorthernIllinoisPlumber
I found the funniest reviews to be where visitors would be to knickname the campgrounds. Some can be very entertaining.
wallysmom
QUOTE(NorthernIllinoisPlumber @ Jul 12 2010, 10:15 PM) *

I found the funniest reviews to be where visitors would be to knickname the campgrounds. Some can be very entertaining.

Can't believe the people that complain about freeway traffic, when the campground is 2/10 miles from it....or the train noise when they are right next to the tracks. Do your research, people!
jamarynn1
It's the same with hotel and cruiseline reviews. Before a cruise or a trip to Vegas, I'll start haunting the boards for info. Bring up reviews for a hotel or buffet in Vegas and you'll find:

1. "Best hotel in Vegas. Huge clean rooms. Wonderful pool. The people at the front desk were friendly and helpful."

followed by:

2. "Worst hotel in Vegas. Rooms were too small even for the bedbugs. Filthy bathrooms. Pool was a cesspit. Horrible employees."

followed by:

3. "Best hotel I've ever stayed in. Wonderful employees. Big rooms....."

Well, you get the idea. Same thing goes for buffets: "Best food in Vegas"....."worst food in Vegas"...."we eat there every time"....."everyone in my party got ptomaine poisening"....

Ditto for cruise reviewss. I have to wonder how EVERYTHING about a cruise could be horrible? I just read one cruise review that stated the person "almost starved to death" as the food was so awful that she couldn't eat a thing. Puh-leeze.....how bad could it be? My humble opinion is that if I don't have to shop for it, schlep it home, unpack it, cook it, put it on the table and clean up afterwards, then I'm gonna like it...maybe not love it.....but definitely like it.

Anyway I look at it, a bad day on vacation beats the h-e-double hockey sticks out of a good day at the office.

Jama (who is on day 20 of her first 4-month RV trip and hasn't killed her boyfriend yet....yet...)

Fitzjohnfan
I like that phrase as a slogan "A bad day on vacation is better than a good day at work!"

Anyway, it is funny how reviews can fluctuate up and down for some parks. there is one park we stay at here in Colorado that I have never had a problem with, and it appears most people have a good time there. the only bad reviews (over the last 3 years) is when someone complains to management about the poor WiFi. Then the management "goes off" on the camper and the review plummets.
dodge guy
I too like the reviews for reading entertainment! I especially like the ones that complain of flies, knats and other insects........you`re camping/RV`ing, are you kidding me! or some that complain that $40 a nite is expensive, compared to what?.......dry camping in a state/national park! the other one that I like is when someone complains the site was unlevel! and they needed to use thier leveling blocks.......OK unless you get lucky and find a flat parking lot, even a pad sometimes needs leveling! I`m sure these are important to some, but hardly worth giving a lower rating for it.
dodge guy
QUOTE(Fitzjohnfan @ Jul 21 2010, 02:54 PM) *

I like that phrase as a slogan "A bad day on vacation is better than a good day at work!"

Anyway, it is funny how reviews can fluctuate up and down for some parks. there is one park we stay at here in Colorado that I have never had a problem with, and it appears most people have a good time there. the only bad reviews (over the last 3 years) is when someone complains to management about the poor WiFi. Then the management "goes off" on the camper and the review plummets.


There is a Jellystone in Gatlinburg and all the reviews are 8,9,10`s. there is only one review with a 2 or 3? I wonder how that one couple hated the place. they complained of all the gravel in the campground, yet you look at thier reviews and at another place they thought the gravel sites were wonderful???!
HappiestCamper
Also that CG got a 1, and they stated that there wasn't enough room for their popup and screen house - and at the end it says they stayed in a Motorhome blink.gif
Texasrvers
To the last two posters: We always want our information to be correct so when I read your posts about the Jellystone park in Gatlinburg I checked it out with the idea af making any needed corrections. However, I do not see the things you have reported.

First I agree that this park has received mostly 8, 9, and 10 ratings; however, I do not find any 2 or 3 ratings. There is a 4 rating, but there is no mention of the gravel sites (in that review or in their previous reviews) which you cited in your post.

Second I do find a #1 rating, but it was way back in June of 2007--hardly an up-to-date review. However, I agree with you that there is a discrepancy with talking about not having room for their pop-up and screen room and then checking off that they stayed in a motorhome. Perhaps they had both a motorhome and pop-up on the site (or they had two sites), but that is not very likely. If this were a June 2010 review I would be a little more concerned, but I don't think a review from three years ago is going to make much difference.

It is always good to check ALL of the reviews, but in this case I can't see how the 2007 review is significant even if there is a mistake in it. Please let me know if there is something I am missing here.
HappiestCamper
No, no, no - just entertaining biggrin.gif
RLM
QUOTE(wallysmom @ Jul 18 2010, 06:01 PM) *

Can't believe the people that complain about freeway traffic, when the campground is 2/10 miles from it....or the train noise when they are right next to the tracks. Do your research, people!


Research is what the review process is all about. It is helpful when a review includes things like traffic or RR track noise; or any other noise problem for that matter. It probably isn't all that difficult to figure out that a CG next to an Interstate is noisy, but those near secondary roads may not have that same issue. I suspect that there are way more little used or abandoned tracks than active ones so how does one research whether a RR track is going to be a problem?

If the reviewer rambles on about one issue, then I might agree it would be complaining, but mentioning a problem with a campground is not. Otherwise the comments about the lack of cell service, low voltage, unlevel sites, et al would be complaining.
Denali
QUOTE(HappiestCamper @ Aug 25 2010, 05:43 AM) *

Also that CG got a 1, and they stated that there wasn't enough room for their popup and screen house - and at the end it says they stayed in a Motorhome blink.gif
When you submit a review, the radio button for your type of RV defaults to "Motorhome". The last sentence in each review, "We camped there in a ..." is automatically appended by the system based on that control. When reviewers forget to click the radio button for their type of RV, that sentence will read "We camped there in a Motorhome."

(No, I don't know why it capitalizes "Motorhome". smile.gif )
mdcamping
QUOTE(Denali @ Aug 25 2010, 07:48 PM) *

When you submit a review, the radio button for your type of RV defaults to "Motorhome". The last sentence in each review, "We camped there in a ..." is automatically appended by the system based on that control. When reviewers forget to click the radio button for their type of RV, that sentence will read "We camped there in a Motorhome."



Yup, I've done that... rolleyes.gif

Mike
Texasrvers
Thanks Denali, I did not know about the default. I just figured the system rejected the review like it does if other information is left out. Good to know how it works.
dodge guy
QUOTE(Denali @ Aug 25 2010, 06:48 PM) *

When you submit a review, the radio button for your type of RV defaults to "Motorhome". The last sentence in each review, "We camped there in a ..." is automatically appended by the system based on that control. When reviewers forget to click the radio button for their type of RV, that sentence will read "We camped there in a Motorhome."

(No, I don't know why it capitalizes "Motorhome". smile.gif )


Yep I also have done that. except the one I mentioned they say they had a hard time with thier PuP and screenroom, and they camped in a Motorhome, then if you look at a prior post it says they camped in a TT?! more than likely it`s an oversight on the reviewers part, but it still makes you wonder.
Trailer Park Casanova
We read the reviews and form a consensus on the common takes.

I try to be as genuine as I can in mine and put in the things I think may cause issues, annoyances or problems for someone else.
Not just what might be a one time problem.

Sweet young families that run RV parks, managers so drunk they light the filter of their cigarette or dip their hamburger in their coke and take a bite,, ya can't pass up posting those experiences though.

Sometime though, maybe experiences are just that and have no bearing on the quality of the park, and perhaps are best left un-posted.

A group of 11 year old European girls from rented motor homes knocked on our RV door inviting our 10 year old to swim in the beautiful river that runs through the park. Zion RV park BTW.
How nice of them!!

Well the Euro kids took off their cloths and jumped in the river,, and it really embarrassed our 10 year old.
My wife is Swiss and explained to our 10 year old modesty is viewed differently in some places.

We didn't put that in because between pulls from his beer, the park manager told us the Euro visitors are usually just there in early August and heading to Sturgis and are taking advantage of the weak dollar.
perduejn
I am a full-timer and I also do an RV Park's web page and spend the summer at the same RV Park. I often find out about the dissatisfied clients from the owners. Here's my take on many of these reviews, esp. when I've heard both sides of the review (you don't get to hear the owner's side here).

Most of the bad reviews for our park (there aren't many) come from the following problems:

1) The customer had a run-in with the owner because they didn't understand or like the policies, esp. the one about NO MONEY BACK. They do this because they are full in June, July and August and every last minute cancellation costs them money. This is prominently displayed on our web site and told to every customer on the phone. Some reviewers seem to have forgotten this. BUT.. once that occurs, they then try to find every negative thing they can to say in a review for revenge.

2) Sometimes a customer gets put in one of the least desirable sites. These are sites that are smaller, but all sites can't be BEST. Usually, early reservations will ensure that this doesn't happen. When you make your reservation tell them if you have a specific site size requirement and that you don't want to stay if you can't be accommodated.

3) Some RV Parks just aren't for everyone. Our park is 100 yards from a forest, but not in the forest. We have trees everywhere that were planted, but some people want to be in a forest and they complain if it isn't. Some people demand fire rings and others don't want to be near a fire, others want to be able to ride their ATV from here and others hate the noise, others want complete freedom for dogs and others don't want dogs at all. Some want a pool for the kids and others don't want the noise from such things! It goes on. Anywhere you have people sharing resources someone will not like something.

4) The customer has violated a policy or more likely their children have behaved badly and the owners, in respect to the other customers politely ask them to change their behavior. Many people don't like this and write a bad review to GET EVEN. The park owner has no recourse to this unfair review. (This happens a lot in the middle of summer when kids are numerous and get out of control.)

5) The park is too far from some landmark they want to be near, yet our web page is full of maps and declarations for mileage to these landmarks.

6) Sometimes a reviewer is right about a defect and the owner is happy to find out, though they'd prefer to hear it directly from the customer. Running an RV Park is like being the host of a huge family reunion and trying to avoid any arguments between the family members for a week. Sometimes you make mistakes without knowing it, and sometimes you say things to customers you'd wish you hadn't. Owners and managers are people too.

In my opinion, the bottom line for finding a good RV Park is: Take these reviews just like you'd take the reviews of a product you read on Amazon. Some people will like it and some won't, no the negative reviews seriously. (but remember that many people write multiple bad reviews to get even with the park for a no-refund policy). Look at the overall rating and make a decision, but MOST of all, call the park with your list of important MUSTS and quiz the owners about them.

Overall this is a GREAT site, but it would be better if the owners had a chance to respond to some of the really bad reviews. Knowing both sides of an argument make it clear that these reviews have to be taken, (like anything you read off the Internet) with a grain of salt. Form your own opinion of an RV Park from several sources, or another way to say it: don't follow the GPS map into the lake!
Texasrvers
Very good, perduejn.
Denali
Well put, perduejn.

You should know that a LOT of reviews never get published because they are simply rants, as you describe. Some folks try to use this site as a consumer complaint line or as a way to anonymously punish a park because something p***ed them off.
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