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Procarver
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We wish more parks had a strict "No Pet Policy". My wife is allergic to both dogs and cats so we have no pets and don't wish to be bothered by other peoples pets. Our family has been RVing for over 50 years and when we owned a dog and went camping our very well trained dog(s) went to the kennels where it belonged. Many people now days feel their damn mutt has more rights than people, such as being able to ignore leash regulations, nonsense. It also appears most of these "pampered pooches" have not had proper training which just exacerbates the problem. Oh, and let's not forget to mention the bozos who feel it is beneath them to pick up their animals deposits. Maybe it is time to equate non-pet owners rights with non-smokers rights. Remember, there was a time when non-smokers had no rights.
kcmoedoe
QUOTE(Procarver @ Nov 19 2010, 03:43 PM) *

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We wish more parks had a strict "No Pet Policy". My wife is allergic to both dogs and cats so we have no pets and don't wish to be bothered by other peoples pets. Our family has been RVing for over 50 years and when we owned a dog and went camping our very well trained dog(s) went to the kennels where it belonged. Many people now days feel their damn mutt has more rights than people, such as being able to ignore leash regulations, nonsense. It also appears most of these "pampered pooches" have not had proper training which just exacerbates the problem. Oh, and let's not forget to mention the bozos who feel it is beneath them to pick up their animals deposits. Maybe it is time to equate non-pet owners rights with non-smokers rights. Remember, there was a time when non-smokers had no rights.

Don't think you are going to find a lot of sympathy with this post. My dog is the reason I spent $300,000 on a coach. I could go an awfully lot of great places in style for that kind of money, but my dog couldn't, hence I RV. I can't envision an RV park that could succeed with a strict "NO PET" policy. I believe fully 50% of RVers, especially full timers, have a pet of some kind. Others feel just about as strongly about excluding children and campfires. Add in those who would like to see "No Alcohol" the law of the park and there wouldn't be too many RVers left for a very restrictive park to rent to. I think you have a request that will go nowhere fast.
Nolan
QUOTE(Procarver @ Nov 19 2010, 01:43 PM) *

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We wish more parks had a strict "No Pet Policy". My wife is allergic to both dogs and cats so we have no pets and don't wish to be bothered by other peoples pets. Our family has been RVing for over 50 years and when we owned a dog and went camping our very well trained dog(s) went to the kennels where it belonged. Many people now days feel their damn mutt has more rights than people, such as being able to ignore leash regulations, nonsense. It also appears most of these "pampered pooches" have not had proper training which just exacerbates the problem. Oh, and let's not forget to mention the bozos who feel it is beneath them to pick up their animals deposits. Maybe it is time to equate non-pet owners rights with non-smokers rights. Remember, there was a time when non-smokers had no rights.


Haven't had any cat problems but agree on the dog problems. Seems to have got worse in the 6 years of full-timing RVing and workamping. Run into a lot of people where it's not their dog barking, has to be someone else's dog that is barking. rolleyes.gif
Texasrvers
We also bought our motorhome so that we could take our animals with us.
Tom
Procarver, sounds like you should be more upset with pet owners than the pets themselves.
dalsgal
We gladly welcome pets. We only had a problem with one pet barking and I immediately went over and informed the owners that they must deal with it or leave. Dogs bark on occasion, children yell, engines make noise, people laugh and everyone should learn to handle nose, of any kind on occasion. Most people that are animal lovers wouldn't dream of going in their RV without their pets.

I'm sorry to sound rude but my feeling from your post is that you are an angry person in general.
HappiestCamper
I wish that more people that joined this forum to just complain about one thing would do some research and post to the other threads that have already talked about this.

Procarver, since you didn't do your research, let me tell you what has already been learned here. It has been agreed that it is not the pets, but the owners that are the problems. It is also only the very few bad owners that makes everybody look bad. The vast majority abide by the rules, clean up after their pets, keep them on a leash and out of your site. Pet owners would like to see fenced in areas where they can let their pet run loose for exercise.
mdcamping
So far we have never run into problems with any four legged campers, It's the two legged one's we've had problems with... biggrin.gif


Mike
possumtrotky
QUOTE(Procarver @ Nov 19 2010, 02:43 PM) *

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We wish more parks had a strict "No Pet Policy". My wife is allergic to both dogs and cats so we have no pets and don't wish to be bothered by other peoples pets. Our family has been RVing for over 50 years and when we owned a dog and went camping our very well trained dog(s) went to the kennels where it belonged. Many people now days feel their damn mutt has more rights than people, such as being able to ignore leash regulations, nonsense. It also appears most of these "pampered pooches" have not had proper training which just exacerbates the problem. Oh, and let's not forget to mention the bozos who feel it is beneath them to pick up their animals deposits. Maybe it is time to equate non-pet owners rights with non-smokers rights. Remember, there was a time when non-smokers had no rights.



Wish more people felt like you. Dogs and cats are not part of rv'ing in my book. I hate looking out the window while eating and seeing a dog doing his/her thing. Yes it is the people and not the animal. The people drag the animals along like its the only thing that is worth while. If I had a choice I would not stay in a park that had animals in it.

QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Nov 20 2010, 12:21 AM) *

We also bought our motorhome so that we could take our animals with us.

expensive dog house isn't it. I would not want it when you get ready to get rid of it.
Texasrvers
QUOTE(possumtrotky @ Nov 22 2010, 10:21 AM) *

expensive dog house isn't it.


Yes, but they let us go with them. Afterall, someone has to drive.



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I would not want it when you get ready to get rid of it.


And I probably would not want someone else's RV that has had animals in it. Pets are like kids. You can tolerate cleaning up after your own, but you don't want to clean up after someone elses. And don't forget humans can be pretty nasty, too. I would not want an RV that had belonged to a smoker or a snuff dipper. I'll take an animal "accident" any day over the smell or sight of that.
RLM
It is socially accepted that kids donít poop on the ground, pee on a tree, or make a continuous racket (bark) when left alone, but Iíve seen pets that have better behaviors than some children. Kidís behavior is also a product of their Ďowner.í

The other day I met a nice older gentleman who was riding a Harley. He carried his small dog with him. The dog was dressed in biker gear, too include eye goggles. And I thought I had seen everything, but itís not for me to judge.

By choice I donít have a pet and therefore do not understand the relationship of noise to dog size. Why is it that the smaller the dog the more incessant the barking?

QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ Nov 19 2010, 07:47 PM) *

Others feel just about as strongly about excluding children and campfires. Add in those who would like to see "No Alcohol" the law of the park and there wouldn't be too many RVers left for a very restrictive park to rent to.


Meaning that you can't please everyone all the time so a bit of tolerance, where desired, might be appropriate.
edcornflake
QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ Nov 19 2010, 10:47 PM) *

Others feel just about as strongly about excluding children and campfires. Add in those who would like to see "No Alcohol" the law of the park and there wouldn't be too many RVers left for a very restrictive park to rent to. I think you have a request that will go nowhere fast.


We camp because we want to share the family camping experience with our kids and our dog, we love having campfires and the occasional beverage by said campfire... Should the uberboring park of the future become the norm, I'd have to switch to tenting in the woods behind my house! (and I know you're not calling for such a campground KC) I don't stumble around drunk walking my barking dog and not pick up her 'leavings' while my barefoot chilluns race through the campground shouting and knocking over pic-nic tables. My dog does bark occasionally. My kids do make noise once in a while. I always have more baggies than I'll need on any walk and always pick up what's dropped. I like to think that I'm the norm, but maybe not.

It's been said several times, but more often than not, it's the people. Most people have become so entitled and self centered, that they don't notice when their selfishness is negatively impacting those around them. I see it all the time, there is neither common sense, nor common decency much of the time.
Procarver
QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ Nov 19 2010, 07:47 PM) *

Don't think you are going to find a lot of sympathy with this post. My dog is the reason I spent $300,000 on a coach. I could go an awfully lot of great places in style for that kind of money, but my dog couldn't, hence I RV. I can't envision an RV park that could succeed with a strict "NO PET" policy. I believe fully 50% of RVers, especially full timers, have a pet of some kind. Others feel just about as strongly about excluding children and campfires. Add in those who would like to see "No Alcohol" the law of the park and there wouldn't be too many RVers left for a very restrictive park to rent to. I think you have a request that will go nowhere fast.


If you spent $300,000.00 on a coach to accommodate a mutt, you could have saved $$ by going to a psychiatrist. If you wish to travel with a dog in your coach, fine, but keep it there preferably with a mussel on it so it can't bark. I also find it quite interesting that people like yourself prefer to change the subject instead of sticking to the issue at hand. I wouldn't tolerate such behavior from my kids when they were growing up. Last but not least, based on a few years observation, mutts accompany closer to 10% 0f campers, not 50%.
Procarver
QUOTE(Tom @ Nov 20 2010, 05:46 AM) *

Procarver, sounds like you should be more upset with pet owners than the pets themselves.


Kind of like arguing which came first the chicken or the egg, however, you are in part correct as it does seem the more pampered an animal is the less disciplined it appears to be.
wprigge
QUOTE(RLM @ Nov 22 2010, 01:36 PM) *

Meaning that you can't please everyone all the time so a bit of tolerance, where desired, might be appropriate.



RLM, you wrote the golden word again! wink.gif

But from the following answers we don't seem to be going down that path.

By the way, my tolerance level did go down many notches for quite some time after I stepped in a mutt's landmine left hidden in the fall leaves two feet from my entrance step. Of course it was just a coincidence that the motorhome on that side of me had a canine supervisor of the corresponding size.....
Procarver
QUOTE(edcornflake @ Nov 22 2010, 10:46 AM) *

We camp because we want to share the family camping experience with our kids and our dog, we love having campfires and the occasional beverage by said campfire... Should the uberboring park of the future become the norm, I'd have to switch to tenting in the woods behind my house! (and I know you're not calling for such a campground KC) I don't stumble around drunk walking my barking dog and not pick up her 'leavings' while my barefoot chilluns race through the campground shouting and knocking over pic-nic tables. My dog does bark occasionally. My kids do make noise once in a while. I always have more baggies than I'll need on any walk and always pick up what's dropped. I like to think that I'm the norm, but maybe not.

It's been said several times, but more often than not, it's the people. Most people have become so entitled and self centered, that they don't notice when their selfishness is negatively impacting those around them. I see it all the time, there is neither common sense, nor common decency much of the time.


Your family sounds quite like what we considered the norm 20 years but not now. Your last paragraph showed insight rarely seen today. I don't think most want boring. Properly trained and supervised children and socializing around a campfire with a beverage of your choice are all a legitimate part of the camping experience, tolerating boorish behavior, loud music, mis-behaving children or pets shouldn't be. I still think the mutt should stay at home.

QUOTE(HappiestCamper @ Nov 20 2010, 08:00 AM) *

I wish that more people that joined this forum to just complain about one thing would do some research and post to the other threads that have already talked about this.

Procarver, since you didn't do your research, let me tell you what has already been learned here. It has been agreed that it is not the pets, but the owners that are the problems. It is also only the very few bad owners that makes everybody look bad. The vast majority abide by the rules, clean up after their pets, keep them on a leash and out of your site. Pet owners would like to see fenced in areas where they can let their pet run loose for exercise.


And we would prefer to see parks with no pets or as some have, a no pet area same as a no smoking area. I did find it interesting you chose to question the research of one known for that endeavor. But then again, you misspelled my name as well.
Procarver
QUOTE(dalsgal @ Nov 20 2010, 07:20 AM) *

We gladly welcome pets. We only had a problem with one pet barking and I immediately went over and informed the owners that they must deal with it or leave. Dogs bark on occasion, children yell, engines make noise, people laugh and everyone should learn to handle nose, of any kind on occasion. Most people that are animal lovers wouldn't dream of going in their RV without their pets.

I'm sorry to sound rude but my feeling from your post is that you are an angry person in general.


Dalsgal, you appear to operate a RV park and also appear to be doing it properly. I only commented on pets in camp grounds, I don't know how all of this other nonsense got interjected into the equation. We just feel that if parks are going to allow pets, they should be strictly limited to one section with the rest including common areas, "no pet". We both grew up with animals both as pets and to eat and believe they S/B kept in their place. On a lighter note, I recommend you don't give up your day job to become a psychiatrist. I am considered by most to be a happy go lucky person and I wouldn't even be angry if I learned I was to die tomorrow as I have lived 35 years longer than expected after being diagnosed with a cancer that is terminal 99.9% of the time. I will however plead guilty to a complete lack of tolerance for unacceptable, ignorant, boorish behavior and poor performance.
kcmoedoe
QUOTE(Procarver @ Nov 22 2010, 04:50 PM) *

If you spent $300,000.00 on a coach to accommodate a mutt, you could have saved $$ by going to a psychiatrist. If you wish to travel with a dog in your coach, fine, but keep it there preferably with a mussel on it so it can't bark. I also find it quite interesting that people like yourself prefer to change the subject instead of sticking to the issue at hand. I wouldn't tolerate such behavior from my kids when they were growing up. Last but not least, based on a few years observation, mutts accompany closer to 10% 0f campers, not 50%.

By all means, I am sure your "observational" numbers are more accurate than mine. I didn't realize you were a professional observer and myself an admitted unaccomplished amateur. Thanks to hard work, I have $300,000 to spend anyway I please. I chose to spend it on a rig so my dog can travel with me. If that is considered crazy, so be it. How is my post changing the subject? I believe the subject was about RV parks and Dogs. Also, why would travelling with a mussel on my dog do any good. Do you not know what a mussel is? A mussel is a freshwater clam. I don't think having a freshwater clam on my dog would stop her from barking. The only advantage I could see to a "no pets" park would be the fact that you would stay there and I would not. You sound like a very angry person, perhaps you should take my time at the psychiatrist.
HappiestCamper
QUOTE(Procarver @ Nov 22 2010, 06:28 PM) *

<snip>I did find it interesting you chose to question the research of one known for that endeavor. But then again, you misspelled my name as well.

Just saying, been covered in a bunch of other topics here already.
I know my eyesight is really bad, but I don't see where I spelled it wrong. "Pro" as in professional, "carver" as in what most of us will be doing with the turkey on Thursday?
Texasrvers
QUOTE(Procarver @ Nov 22 2010, 06:20 PM) *

We just feel that if parks are going to allow pets, they should be strictly limited to one section with the rest including common areas, "no pet".


This post sounds quite different from your first one that stated, "We wish more parks had a strict "No Pet Policy". I took your first comment to mean you would like to see more parks that did not allow pets at all. If other members read that the same way I did I can see how they would jump in to defend being able to stay at RV parks and have their pets with them.

Now if what you are really saying is you would like to see more parks that have a no pets area that is a whole other idea and not an unreasonable one. I think most RVers with pets would agree to this. We have stayed at several parks that have pet and no pet areas and feel that is fine. It accommodates both ways of thinking and is more akin to smoking/no smoking areas. I absolutely would not mind staying in the pet area and refraining from taking my pets into the common areas. Many parks already have that rule, and in fact I do not take my pets there now. I love my animals like a child, but I do not expect everyone else to feel the same way or to have to be around them outside of my RV.
RFCN2
Wow, I am trying to stay positive here, but I just have to say that I am not fond of animal haters. The fact that you have /had a dog and then left them in a kennel when you went out to explore the outdoors says to me you don't care about your animal. I love dogs. I love mine. I volunteer at the local Zoo. Dogs love to go on RV trips. It is dog heaven. And my life when I take my dog with me on an RV trip is improved by the dog being with me. One of the attractions of RVing is I can take her.

Since the two "newby's" seem to want to sanitize RV parks my question is, why don't you stay in an immaculate hospital-like hotel. I cannot understand why you would want to put up with the dirt at RV parks.

All that said, I also am put off by land mines dog owners don't pick up. I also do not like uncontrolled dogs barking constantly. We are very careful that ours keeps mostly quiet and her messes are cleaned up.

Thankfully I think the chance of RV parks going to to dog, smoke (I am a non smoker), and noise free mode is zero and none.

Lastly, could you please give me a heads up on any distinctive markings on your two coaches so I can make sure I don't park next to you all ever.
possumtrotky
QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ Nov 19 2010, 09:47 PM) *

Don't think you are going to find a lot of sympathy with this post. My dog is the reason I spent $300,000 on a coach. I could go an awfully lot of great places in style for that kind of money, but my dog couldn't, hence I RV. I can't envision an RV park that could succeed with a strict "NO PET" policy. I believe fully 50% of RVers, especially full timers, have a pet of some kind. Others feel just about as strongly about excluding children and campfires. Add in those who would like to see "No Alcohol" the law of the park and there wouldn't be too many RVers left for a very restrictive park to rent to. I think you have a request that will go nowhere fast.



I think thats a expensive dog house. I wouldn't want it when u are thru with it. I also do not think dogs and cats should be in a park with me. seperated the two and animal lovers keep your muts out of my sight while doing their business.
joez
QUOTE
based on a few years observation, mutts accompany closer to 10% 0f campers, not 50%.


Actually, every demographic study that I have seen (Escapees,FMCA, etc) show 40%-50% of rv travelers travel with pets. Perhaps these studies are skewed because they mostly concentrate on full time/snowbird rv travelers. These resuts would be in order, though, since 39% of American households have at least one dog (Humane Society).

Maybe we are all getting grumpy as we age, or maybe we are all turning into activists. In our travels this year I have seen people complaining confrontationally about no pets allowed, pets allowed, kids too loud,campfires too smoky, generators too loud, etc. I've watched campground neighbors scream at workers because the wifi was too slow or the pool water was too cold. I have been hassled by a group of tenters claiming I was ruining the world burning diesel and by a neighbor in an rv park that complained because her family was vegetarian and I was cooking meat on a grill and they claimed the odor upset them. Another woman was in an rv office in tears because there were no campsites designated as non smoking. I think I will keep taking my "chill pills" and roll with whatever comes my way. My rv has wheels and I can go wherever I feel wanted.
RFCN2
I have to take a chill pill too. I felt bad all night about writing me semi unkind post last night. I too have seen a number of confrontations in the last year. I just don't want to become part of the problem. My wife has a saying, "The World is full of a^&%^&%s, just try not to be one of them." So now I am going to concentrate on being mellow.
Procarver
QUOTE(HappiestCamper @ Nov 22 2010, 07:12 PM) *

Just saying, been covered in a bunch of other topics here already.
I know my eyesight is really bad, but I don't see where I spelled it wrong. "Pro" as in professional, "carver" as in what most of us will be doing with the turkey on Thursday?


On my computer the "v" was a "y", minor detail.
nedmtnman
I would assume these newbies are those that like to come onto a forum and get a bunch of &^%* stirred up to stroke their egos. If they are left alone they will go somewhere else. Just my experience in these things.
Texasrvers
QUOTE(nedmtnman @ Nov 23 2010, 05:01 PM) *

I would assume these newbies are those that like to come onto a forum and get a bunch of &^%* stirred up to stroke their egos. If they are left alone they will go somewhere else. Just my experience in these things.



I don't think procarver meant to be that way. His first post may have come on a little heavy-handed, but after that he was only just responding to remarks made by us pet lovers.
Lindsay Richards
QUOTE
The World is full of a^&%^&%s, just try not to be one of them."



You married a very smart lady. Me too, but sometimes it is hard to heed their advise.
DXSMac
The December 2010 issue of Motorhome Magazine featured articles about people who travel with pets, and suggested pet etiquette.

(and, if I may be so bold as to brag...... the article of the person who travels with a cat was..... ME!!!!!!)

JJ
Lindsay Richards
If is online, please post a link to it. I am giving you a great excuse to do so.
Texasrvers
QUOTE(DXSMac @ Nov 25 2010, 02:24 PM) *

The December 2010 issue of Motorhome Magazine featured articles about people who travel with pets, and suggested pet etiquette.

(and, if I may be so bold as to brag...... the article of the person who travels with a cat was..... ME!!!!!!)

JJ



JJ,

What a great article! I had not found time to read the Dec. issue, but I as soon as I read your post I got the issue and read it. Your part was very interesting. It's nice you got to be a part of this. Congratulations.

TX
DXSMac
QUOTE(Lindsay Richards @ Nov 25 2010, 12:48 PM) *

If is online, please post a link to it. I am giving you a great excuse to do so.



Sorry, there isn't a "public" link, I already tried. They mailed me a free copy. I can email you the article if you PM me.

JJ
nedmtnman
QUOTE(DXSMac @ Nov 25 2010, 02:24 PM) *

The December 2010 issue of Motorhome Magazine featured articles about people who travel with pets, and suggested pet etiquette.

(and, if I may be so bold as to brag...... the article of the person who travels with a cat was..... ME!!!!!!)

JJ



We travel with two cats named Bill and Bob. They are great traveling companions.
RLM
QUOTE(RFCN2 @ Nov 23 2010, 11:01 AM) *

My wife has a saying, "The World is full of a^&%^&%s, just try not to be one of them."


She's a very wise woman. smile.gif
DXSMac
QUOTE(nedmtnman @ Nov 26 2010, 07:57 AM) *

We travel with two cats named Bill and Bob. They are great traveling companions.



My cat is starting to be ok with it. He hated it at first, constant MEOW MEOW MEOW! Now he just grudgingly goes along with it.

JJ
Lindsay Richards
I had the same problem with my wife in the begining, but now she is the first to be ready to go.
nedmtnman
QUOTE(DXSMac @ Nov 26 2010, 06:30 PM) *

My cat is starting to be ok with it. He hated it at first, constant MEOW MEOW MEOW! Now he just grudgingly goes along with it.

JJ


Yeah, we had a cat named Casey that would start in at about 100 miles. At 150 I would give up and stop for the night. Now at 150 miles I still stop for the night. I learned a lot from Casey. Bill and Bob get in their carrier and just sleep until we stop.
DXSMac
Someone just sent me a PM asking for the article. I read the message then I must have clicked the wrong thing because the message disappeared. I don't remember who sent the message.

Would you please resend, and this time include an email where I can send the article? I cannot attach the article on a PM.

JJ
MrsIslander
QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Nov 20 2010, 12:21 AM) *

We also bought our motorhome so that we could take our animals with us.



biggrin.gif We, too, did the same. They are our "kids" and if they can't go, we can't go. Period. They make our trips so much more fun! I do not have idle hands due to them. They are also the reason our coach is so clean... my hands are not idle with them around. I clean constantly and wipe hinnies and paw after walks and potty breaks. We are responsible pet owners, picking up after them inside and out. Too bad there are other pet owners that do not so much mad.gif
gwinn1952
It always amazes me the number of people who complain about various things while they travel. It appears that nothing makes them happy outside the confines of their own home. In my 30 years of traveling we have done so with and without pets, with and without children. By far I was happier when I was with my pets and children at the same time. We even have a pet stroller for the 2 mini dachshunds so we can go to craft shows etc. We own a 5th wheel (to have enough room for 3 dogs) and quiete frankly have more complaints about restrictions on where I can walk my dogs....we never leave them unattended to go to attractions etc. We reprimand our dogs if they bark, pick up after them and yes wonder why some owners leave their pets unattended in parks, don't pick up after them. It gives a bad name for the rest of us. We now own a 7 month Golden Retriever.......all three dogs just love camping. Sitting outside and watching what is going on in the park. We are always out walking our dogs and really enjoy the people we stop and talk with......thank you to those individuals who make our day. As for those who just frankly complain about any noise....camping is probably not for you as just being outdooors is such a joy....the beauty and the sounds of nature etc. Many times we get to a park and wonder about the people who come to camp but never get out of there MH or FifthWheel....why do you camp? You need to get out and socialize....that is what life is all about. But to those individuals who have bad mannered pets and might I also say bad mannered children....or the root of the problem bad mannered parents.....I too wish you'd stay home. Between not picking up after your pets or your children stuffing the toilets with paper or throwing garbage around....it is your job to watch and take care of not the parks.
rwarner22
I am listening to a dog bark now. He/she has been at it for the last 5 hours. Ugh
Labrador Fan
Many of the New York State Parks have Pet Loops and No-Pet Loops. This seems to work out well and solves a lot of those problems. Unfortunately, some of the parks that have 'preferred' or 'water-view' sites make those the No-Pets sites. In that case, I feel then that I am being discriminated against. sad.gif

We have two labs, and yep.... bought a bigger coach to keep us all a bit more comfortable. They love to travel with us, are well behaved while riding and while camping. I invest in PoopBags.com which are 'GREEN' and environmentally friendly. I just wish that everyone would 'walk their dog' which would help to socialize them. That would help to alleviate the 'yappies'.

Happy travels.....

Labrador Fan rolleyes.gif

Gunnar
We camp with two dogs. One is a rotty the other a rescue from the SPCA. He is a Malamute cross. The bulk of our outings are to the same place. Once we start loading up the 5th wheel the dogs know what is happening, they get pretty excited.

Upon arrival at the campsite we are greated with dog treats for the dogs. The dogs love the walks, the river and just people watching. Of course they love the campsite owners as well because we can't pass the office without a treat and a pet.

I offered them a couple pictures of the dogs we had with us which they gladly took. I made the suggestion of starting a campers dog wall at the office. They thought it was a great idea.

Camping without the dogs is not an option for us.
Fitzjohnfan
Horror story...
A couple of months ago, we were camping in free campground on BLM land with our kids and dogs. One of my kids left his BB gun outside the motorhome while we went fishing for a couple of hours. When we got back, we found that other kids had come into our site, played with his gun, but worse, had shot at our dog who was probably barking at the kid(s) from the front windshield.

Lesson learned: have your kids pick up their toys when not around and take your dogs with you everywhere. $250.00 deductable (total was over $1,000 to replace windshield) later I am wiser.
abbygolden
QUOTE(Labrador Fan @ Jul 30 2011, 09:28 PM) *

Many of the New York State Parks have Pet Loops and No-Pet Loops. This seems to work out well and solves a lot of those problems. Unfortunately, some of the parks that have 'preferred' or 'water-view' sites make those the No-Pets sites. In that case, I feel then that I am being discriminated against. sad.gif

We have two labs, and yep.... bought a bigger coach to keep us all a bit more comfortable. They love to travel with us, are well behaved while riding and while camping. I invest in PoopBags.com which are 'GREEN' and environmentally friendly. I just wish that everyone would 'walk their dog' which would help to socialize them. That would help to alleviate the 'yappies'.

Happy travels.....

Labrador Fan rolleyes.gif


If only you were 100% correct about socializing your dogs to help alleviate the yapping. I have a 6 yo Golden who gets excited whenever she sees a person or other dog and she greets them by "growling" deeply. To a non-dog loving person this can seem threatening. Others understand but I still worry about it. She doesn't have a mean bone in her body and lets all the dogs play with her. After breeding, raising and showing dogs for 20 years this is the only one I've ever had like this. Luckily she is a happy go lucky dog and the joy of our life.
Labrador Fan
Our Murphy (the Yellow Lab) makes a growling sound when you rub his ears. To me, I recognize the sound of 'oh boy that feels good'! But to the vet tech, she thought he was growling at her. I know EXACTLY what you are saying! Gotta love our pups and the special unique personalities!

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QUOTE(abbygolden @ Aug 3 2011, 04:04 PM) *

If only you were 100% correct about socializing your dogs to help alleviate the yapping. I have a 6 yo Golden who gets excited whenever she sees a person or other dog and she greets them by "growling" deeply. To a non-dog loving person this can seem threatening. Others understand but I still worry about it. She doesn't have a mean bone in her body and lets all the dogs play with her. After breeding, raising and showing dogs for 20 years this is the only one I've ever had like this. Luckily she is a happy go lucky dog and the joy of our life.

rkw99
One of the reasons we orginally bought our trailer 9 years ago was to take our dog with us. As it turned out he didn't really like it. Always seemed nervous. Also learned that campground rules state not to leave pet unattended in the camper. So when we went out sightseeing we had to take him with us. That was kind of restricting since most places don't allow dogs. After a couple of trips we decided he was happier staying at my mom's with her 3 dogs and went camping without him. He's gone now unfortunately. If we ever get another puppy, we will try to get him acclimated to camping while young.

I hadn't really thought about the issue of people who don't want to be around dogs but I like the idea of no-pet zones in RV parks. Even when people clean up after their pets, there are residues and I would prefer my kids not come in contact with that. I also wouldn't mind smoking free areas. I notice a lot of people smoking and have come to realize it's probably one of the only places smokers can vacation. I can't stand the smell of smoke but can deal with the occasional wafting over since it's better than years ago everywhere else being smoke free!
AZKimB
WOW. This comment really stirred up a hornets nest. What struck me when reading through the posts is the nasty comments in some of the replies. The reality is, is that RV'ers come from all walks of life. Many are families with children and pets. Some of us (like Bill and I) RV part time and take along our pets. And there are others who have no kids or pets. The bottom line is that we all love to RV because of the freedom and enjoyment it gives us. Our dogs are part of our family and we love to have them with us. We make sure they don't bother other people's quiet enjoyment; we put a stop to barking immediately if something causes it. We clean up immediately after them. We couldn't imagine RV'ing without our much loved (and well behaved) fur kids. I'd rather have a nice family of RV'ers and their pet/s next to me than rowdy, disrespectful RV'ers whose idea of going into the great outdoors is to get drunk and disorderly. The vast majority of pet owners, in my experience, have been very responsible. Naturally a dog will bark, children will shout out in excited happiness, people will sit around their campsite and laugh and joke. The important thing, my RV'ing colleagues, is to be considerate of others at all times and in our communications be respectful.
PS: Check out our pet Tips & Tricks for pet owners on our RV site at www.BillAndKimOnTheRoadAgain.com

Kim and Bill, AZ
Coco, Suki and Bindi
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kcmoedoe
QUOTE(rkw99 @ Aug 4 2011, 09:17 AM) *

I hadn't really thought about the issue of people who don't want to be around dogs but I like the idea of no-pet zones in RV parks. Even when people clean up after their pets, there are residues and I would prefer my kids not come in contact with that. I also wouldn't mind smoking free areas. I notice a lot of people smoking and have come to realize it's probably one of the only places smokers can vacation. I can't stand the smell of smoke but can deal with the occasional wafting over since it's better than years ago everywhere else being smoke free!

Though separate areas sound great, I would think it would be a logistical impossibility. even if you only had four criteria of Pet/no pet Smoking/no smoking, kids/no kids, campfire/no campfire you would have 24 different combinations to have separate areas for. Even if they could do that, what good would it do you to be in a no pet/no campfire/no smoking/no kid section site if it was next to the pets/smoking/campfire/ kid section? To make it work you would need to have almost a separate RV park for each combination.
AZKimB
QUOTE(kcmoedoe @ Aug 7 2011, 09:23 AM) *

Though separate areas sound great, I would think it would be a logistical impossibility. even if you only had four criteria of Pet/no pet Smoking/no smoking, kids/no kids, campfire/no campfire you would have 24 different combinations to have separate areas for. Even if they could do that, what good would it do you to be in a no pet/no campfire/no smoking/no kid section site if it was next to the pets/smoking/campfire/ kid section? To make it work you would need to have almost a separate RV park for each combination.




I agree. Well said. And the reality is what park owner could a) have the space available to accommodate everyone's different wants and needs, and cool.gif if they did, think of the extra site costs that would undoubtedly be levied to provide RV'ers all their wants and desires. IMHO the bottom line is that sanity, commonsense, and a huge dose of tolerance must prevail.
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