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jamarynn1
QUOTE(Wink @ Feb 27 2012, 08:14 PM) *

Well waiting to see what happens now. Paid over 4.00 dollars a gallon last week in south Florida. As we have trips booked till June we will take them as they are paid for.After that will be looking close to home I think. Will still camp but not put on the miles but when we do will stay longer at each stop.At the time my mileage direct cost is around .50 cents a mile for gas only.sad.gif


We're going to plow on regardless. Just dig a little deeper into the war chest. Last year we spent five months zig-zagging from Florida to Seattle and back. 13,000+ miles. This year, it's just up to Maine and back so fewer miles, but the rv parks are going to be more expensive. So, we're going to get slammed one way or the other. But I refuse to let the economy mess up what I worked and saved all those years for -- to travel the way I want to travel.
Wink
QUOTE(jamarynn1 @ Feb 27 2012, 10:20 PM) *

We're going to plow on regardless. Just dig a little deeper into the war chest. Last year we spent five months zig-zagging from Florida to Seattle and back. 13,000+ miles. This year, it's just up to Maine and back so fewer miles, but the rv parks are going to be more expensive. So, we're going to get slammed one way or the other. But I refuse to let the economy mess up what I worked and saved all those years for -- to travel the way I want to travel.

As you I am going to camp but just no short trips so I can make more out of the miles I do pull.
Texasrvers
QUOTE(jamarynn1 @ Feb 27 2012, 09:20 PM) *

I refuse to let the economy mess up what I worked and saved all those years for -- to travel the way I want to travel.


We feel the same way. I don't want to be 90years old and saying "I wish I had seen such and such, but gas was too high, so we stayed home." We'll make adjustments and keep on traveling.
Dutch_12078
Over our camping years, we've built a list of locations that we'd like to return to when we can spend more time enjoying the surrounding area and attractions. This year looks like it will be a good time to do that. With less road travel and longer stays at each location, we think we can pretty well stay within our existing fuel budget, and still have a great time experiencing new things.
togators
I bought my first RV from a retired Master Chief. I asked the question "How much does it cost to fill-up". He responded with, "Son, if you have to ask me that question, you cannot afford this rig". It was a little bit more colorful than that...but since then I try not to worry about fuel prices and just look at it as investing in my families memories.
jamarynn1
QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Feb 28 2012, 12:38 AM) *

We feel the same way. I don't want to be 90years old and saying "I wish I had seen such and such, but gas was too high, so we stayed home." We'll make adjustments and keep on traveling.


The way I look at it is....when I'm sitting in a wheelchair in a nursing home, I do not want to be saying "Gosh, I'm so glad we didn't make those trips when the gas was so high. I saved all that money so that the government could take it away from me when I went on Medicaid." What I want to be saying is "Woo-wee! How 'bout that time we went hiking in the Grand Canyon and they had to send a mule train to get us out!" Now, THOSE are the memories I want.
Wink
QUOTE(jamarynn1 @ Mar 1 2012, 12:03 AM) *

The way I look at it is....when I'm sitting in a wheelchair in a nursing home, I do not want to be saying "Gosh, I'm so glad we didn't make those trips when the gas was so high. I saved all that money so that the government could take it away from me when I went on Medicaid." What I want to be saying is "Woo-wee! How 'bout that time we went hiking in the Grand Canyon and they had to send a mule train to get us out!" Now, THOSE are the memories I want.


I got my loan approved for another tank of gas so we are hooked up and getting on the road. laugh.gif cool.gif
edcornflake
QUOTE(Wink @ Mar 1 2012, 08:29 AM) *

I got my loan approved for another tank of gas so we are hooked up and getting on the road. laugh.gif cool.gif


HAAAAAAAAA! That's funny!
B. Kidd
QUOTE(edcornflake @ Mar 1 2012, 07:06 PM) *

HAAAAAAAAA! That's funny!




As funny as a heart attack!
I shouldn't get political here, sorry, (but can't resist),
welcome to Obamanation.........
KentuckyCampin
Too early to tell here in KY, however, I have already reserved my spots for memorial day, 4th of july weekend and labor day. I have found that the earlier I reserve the better. The gas prices wont affect me, we WILL be camping as much as possible!! LOL
Happy camping!
DXSMac
QUOTE(togators @ Feb 28 2012, 07:41 AM) *

but since then I try not to worry about fuel prices and just look at it as investing in my families memories.


I like the attitude of this comment...... biggrin.gif but as an ex-Auditor, I'm getting a little tired of the commercialization and overuse of the word "investment." dry.gif This word appears to be used by the advertising industry to justify high prices. "It's an INVESTMENT...... [in whatever it is....]." "Investments" are..... SUPPOSED..... to give one financial returns, not intangible returns........

But WHATEVER...... laugh.gif With these gas prices, I guess I'm "investing" in my happiness!

JJ
John Blue
Here in Topsail Hill State Park FL this park is close to full now and has been over the past couple days. First time to see most all the tent sites and cabins have people as well. Lots of RV units on Hwy 98 as well. cool.gif
edcornflake
Even with Diesel at ~ $4.00 a gallong it'll still be cheaper for me to drive to Disney and stay in Ft. Wilderness than it would be to fly down and stay in the Contemporary or Coronado Springs (Mid tier properties). I've got weekends planned out through the Spring and Summer as well. Reservations are in and deposits (mostly only partially or non refundable) are paid - We're going camping, even if it means I have to sell the dog, and possibly the kids.
ds4006
Just starting out and the COE that were at is only half full. Great choices too pick from
Wink
This winter the south state and COE parks were full in Florida.But I was told by some of the host that this summers reservations were way down so far this year. unsure.gif I know some of the parks we like that were full when I tried to get in now have open spots.Time will tell. dry.gif
B. Kidd
Being full-timers, we put alot of mileage under us last year from April to October doing an east coast turnaround from Vegas to NYC and back. Was planning to do a Calgary trip this summer, but have opted out to spend the summer on the Oregon coast. A case of driving less, staying longer, and playing harder.
Friends of ours manage a resort up there and we called them at the beginning of April to make reservations. At that time, they only had 4 spaces remaining with very few cancellations. Glad I called when I did! Even with higher gas prices (tho' they've begun to minimally come down), availability at a particular place seems to take in other factors as to the quality of the park and area of destination, etc, etc..
Fortunately those $5/gal. predictions a few months ago haven't come to fruition, as our economy can hardly be sustainable at $4 plus per gallon, as economic stagnation slouches forwards.
I drive a gasser and will embrace the days when reg. unleaded comes back down to around $3.50/gal. (can't believe I'm even saying this!). Believe it will by mid to late summer.
Funny how that works when oil drops in price per barrel, prices at the pump drop dreadfully slow. Given the opposite, pump prices can rise a dime overnite!
Dutch_12078
QUOTE(B. Kidd @ May 13 2012, 02:56 PM) *

Fortunately those $5/gal. predictions a few months ago haven't come to fruition, as our economy can hardly be sustainable at $4 plus per gallon, as economic stagnation slouches forwards.
I drive a gasser and will embrace the days when reg. unleaded comes back down to around $3.50/gal. (can't believe I'm even saying this!). Believe it will by mid to late summer.
Funny how that works when oil drops in price per barrel, prices at the pump drop dreadfully slow. Given the opposite, pump prices can rise a dime overnite!

We paid $3.24 a few days ago near Tulsa, OK for unleaded regular, and $3.66 near Indianapolis, IN today. I like the Tulsa price better... biggrin.gif

We're on the last 1,000 miles of a 5,000 mile trip, and we have not needed a reservation anywhere we wanted to stop so far. I expect that may change after Memorial Day weekend.
jamarynn1
QUOTE(edcornflake @ Mar 6 2012, 12:28 PM) *

- We're going camping, even if it means I have to sell the dog, and possibly the kids.


Keep the dog, sell the kids. The dog doesn't need to go to college and wouldn't think of asking for $200 sneakers or expensive video games. You won't even have to buy him a car when he turns 16......he's happy chasing the neighbor's car.
vincee
count me in as jamarynn1, sell kids, dog shows love and appreciation, kids just want more, and besides, they won't lick your face.
Heading out today for the first of hopefully many nights of camping this seaseon. State park we are going to, Evangola State Park near Buffalo, NY is about half booked. Really suprised us so many of the choice sites with view of Lake Erie are taken not even taking into account the amount of walk-ins I'm sure they'll have.
Though motorized Rv sales are tanking (Again!), I've read that towables are doing a brisk business regardless of gas prices.
Wink
QUOTE(vincee @ May 18 2012, 10:37 AM) *

count me in as jamarynn1, sell kids, dog shows love and appreciation, kids just want more, and besides, they won't lick your face.


But then the kids don`t lick there bu## then lick you in the face to see which taste the best. rolleyes.gif
Jerry S.
Getting back to the original, year old topic of "less people camping". I thought last year (when this thread started), the only people who would "camp" less are those for whom costlier gas really does significantly increase the travel cost. For example, the weekender who "camps" once a month 100 miles from home or the 1-2 week vacationer who goes to one campground 200-500 miles from home won't camp less over an extra $50 in gas costs. It's the RVer who goes 10,000 miles every year for whom an extra $1,000 in gas cost is a lot of money. This year (2012), this increase is a similar increase to the difference between 2010 and 2011. I don't think you will necessarily see emptier campgrounds/RVparks in places that have a lot of local folks who use the parks. A New York RVer, for example, may stay in the northeast rather than go out to the Black Hills. Parks in the eastern half of the country really have a large potential customer base within 500 miles. While some parks may or may not have less customers, they will likely have less customers from more distant (1,000+ miles away) states.

When I first wrote the above last night, I completely forgot one of the other points I wanted to make. I am one of those "hooked" folks who checks this site on an almost daily basis - especially since I have been semi-home bound/immobilized since early April. Back then and through most of the winter, you could look at the "Home" page of this site and it might take 2 or 3 days for the recently reviewed parks listed on that page to "turnover". Now the list is turning over a daily, if not faster. Even if fewer people are camping, there has been an explosion of reviews on this site in recent weeks. All those areas that were mostly devoid of RV traveler for the past 5-6 months are suddenly starting to get the begining of these season business. I've seen a number of reviews by people evidently on their way to Alaska in early May.
Fitzjohnfan
Last week we stayed at Lake Powell, and I thought we would be hard-pressed to find a site since it was part of the Memorial Day week, but I was pleasantly suprized to find almost a whole loop nearly empty at the Wahheep Campground. What I did see however, was quite surpising. I woud guess that close to 1/2 of the units there were small RENTAL class C motor homes. The rest were taken up with the usual fivers, class A's, trailers, etc., but the majority were rentals, and many of the occupants were from other countries.
A rough conclusion was that the weak Euro was making travel to the US more appealing, but I'm not exactly sure how that works, and maybe this traffic is usual for this time of year in that area.
Wink
QUOTE(Fitzjohnfan @ Jun 10 2012, 12:27 AM) *

Last week we stayed at Lake Powell, and I thought we would be hard-pressed to find a site since it was part of the Memorial Day week, but I was pleasantly suprized to find almost a whole loop nearly empty at the Wahheep Campground. What I did see however, was quite surpising. I woud guess that close to 1/2 of the units there were small RENTAL class C motor homes. The rest were taken up with the usual fivers, class A's, trailers, etc., but the majority were rentals, and many of the occupants were from other countries.
A rough conclusion was that the weak Euro was making travel to the US more appealing, but I'm not exactly sure how that works, and maybe this traffic is usual for this time of year in that area.


I am also seeing a lot of rentals in the camp grounds.Some are not from the US but a lot are.
edcornflake
We stayed at a place near Cape May, NJ for Memorial day. The joint was PACKED. We wanted to change to a more accessible site (I had to flip the rig around and come in from the other side, cutting across the site, unhook the 5er at 90 degrees, then re-hitch just to get in the site) but they didn't have ANYTHING available for us. I had made my reservation months in advance, they were booked solid. That has not been my experience for the other 3 weekends we've gone out this year, but at least on a holiday weekend near the shore, it's busy, busy, busy.
jamarynn1
This is our fourth rv park since we left Florida on June 1st and all but one have been almost deserted, and that one only had five transient spots anyway. Right now, we're in a 160-site beautiful park in Virginia and there are only eight other rigs in the park. We're all alone in one area of the park and I LOVE IT!!! We're out for four months this year and it will be interesting to see how crowded the parks are going to be.
Galli
QUOTE(jamarynn1 @ Jun 14 2012, 02:21 PM) *

This is our fourth rv park since we left Florida on June 1st and all but one have been almost deserted, and that one only had five transient spots anyway. Right now, we're in a 160-site beautiful park in Virginia and there are only eight other rigs in the park. We're all alone in one area of the park and I LOVE IT!!! We're out for four months this year and it will be interesting to see how crowded the parks are going to be.

Yeep, I agree with you, Florida, at least central Florida is rather empty as RV resorts; I am spending every winter in one of those places and you can choose the spot to put your trailer.
Yes, it is bad for business but because of a fewer campers, the RV resorts had to improve their service or close down the business.
jamarynn1
OK, I think our luck just ran out. We pulled into a campground in Pennsylvania this afternoon and it is packed and getting fuller by the moment. But, it is nearer a major tourist attraction, so that factors in.
Wink
QUOTE(jamarynn1 @ Jun 15 2012, 02:17 PM) *

OK, I think our luck just ran out. We pulled into a campground in Pennsylvania this afternoon and it is packed and getting fuller by the moment. But, it is nearer a major tourist attraction, so that factors in.



Or Fathers day may be part of it with family's going to the attractions Sunday.
Fitzjohnfan
Along this original topic, I was wondering if any of the admins have any data as to the number of reviews coming in this year, vs last year, vs the year before? This might be a good, unbiased indicator of the amount of camping that's going on.
Texasrvers
I would imagine there is a way to find this out, but I'm not sure any of the admins has access to it. It might be something that only the WM can look up. He stays pretty busy, but we can always ask.

Unofficially I can say that there does not seem to be as many reviews as the last two years, but that is just my impression. Nothing to back it up. Course that doesn't necessarily mean there is less camping going on. It could just mean that people may not be writing reviews for the places they have camped.
Jerry S.
Any increase in the number of reviews coming into this site is possibly more a function of an increase in the number of reviewers. If there are 100 more reviews coming in every week compared to last year, that may be because there are 100 new reviewers who were not writing reviews last year. As Texasrvers noted, a decrease in the number of reviews coming in could have several causes and not proof that there is less camping. Then again, some of us are traveling less do to reasons other than gas costs or our economic situation. I, for example, did not take my normal 4-5 week trip to the Gulf coast this May due to medical problems. I'll be lucky to get in 2 months on the road this year versus my normal 4+ months.
joez
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I, for example, did not take my normal 4-5 week trip to the Gulf coast this May due to medical problems. I'll be lucky to get in 2 months on the road this year versus my normal 4+ months.


We also, due to medical issues and pressing work issues for DW, have been forced to cut our normal 6 month journey into 10 weeks. I hate when life gets in the way of fun.
Wind Runner
After spending the winter in the Greater New Orleans area (visiting family) starting in May I took the southwestern route through TX, NM, AZ, NV, & CA and am currently in OR enroute to WA then BC. Mostly Passport America except where not available. The further west I got, the higher the occupancy rates. Highest fuel price was $5.29 for diesel just outside of Yosemite (for once, cheaper in the park). Crown Point Campground in the Columbia River Gorge was full for July 4th, but otherwise almost always one empty space.
joez
Just completed 2 overnights on I-75 between TN and FL. Both campgrounds told me that they were having the slowest year ever this year. The heat and drought had some effect, but both cited the economy as their belief for the down years. These places are normally slower in summer, but this year both campgrounds were near empty when we were there.
vincee
Do to work schedule and an elderly mom DW and I have not been out as much as we should be this year. Living in the Western New York area our local CGs are inundated with folks down from Ontario, Canada much more so than I can recall in the past. What we have also noticed is that there seems to be much less driveable rigs out there and more pull behinds, especially pop-ups and TT. Sorta a side note, came home on 7/15 from a trip to Sicily, Italy. While taking in many beautiful parts of this country with family (there for a celebration) we both wined "we wish we were camping in our MH"!
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