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rangiebob
QUOTE(gwbischoff @ Jun 22 2007, 02:51 PM) *

$40 to sleep in your own bed is a bargain.
...Everything's relative.



Well said! We became working (not retired) full-timers a little over one year ago. For us, this lifestyle is the best of all worlds. Sleeping in my own bed, with my own kitchen, bathroom and office is priceless.

We have stayed in several KOA Kampgrounds and they have all been clean, nice grounds, easy for our big rig to park. The ones we visited had excellent customer service and have been well worth the price, and we will visit them again when we are traveling through in the future.
Sunflyer
$40 to sleep in your own bed is overpriced when a competitor offers a better campground for $30 or $25 or whatever. That is why experienced rvers and fulltimers tend to comment about the pricing for KOA's. In our experience of fulltiming for 7 years they often charge the highest rates in town whether or not they have been maintained. We used them at first when we were less experienced. As time went on and we had access to better resources for researching campgrounds like this site, we have had no problem finding excellent facilities for less money.
gwbischoff
QUOTE(Sunflyer @ Jun 23 2007, 08:43 PM) *

$40 to sleep in your own bed is overpriced when a competitor offers a better campground for $30 or $25 or whatever. That is why experienced rvers and fulltimers tend to comment about the pricing for KOA's. In our experience of fulltiming for 7 years they often charge the highest rates in town whether or not they have been maintained. We used them at first when we were less experienced. As time went on and we had access to better resources for researching campgrounds like this site, we have had no problem finding excellent facilities for less money.


If that is the case, yes. You'd be silly to stay at a place that charges $40 when if you can find one that charges $20 for the same thing. But I don't think that is what people are complaining about.

From what I'm reading, it's people from more rural areas (not judging, just sayin') coming to "resort" or more developed areas and complaining that the prices are higher.

I'm sure you can get a hotel room in Des Moines for under $100. Try getting one in Manhattan for that price.

A quick look at the KOA website shows me I can get a weekend, FHU in Clayton New Mexico for $31. Whereas near the ocean in Santa Cruz, CA it's over $80 a night.

It's about value. Don't like what they charge? Stay somewhere else. God Bless America.

It's like negotiating for a raise. You're only as valuable as your options.
popup6
I am a gold card KOA-er, and I have to say that I much prefer KOA's over private campgrounds.
I like the gift certificate idea they have, we get enough in gift certificates through out the year
to pay for a campsites for two weeks a year and earn credit toward our next gold card and the 15 per cent discount is a plus in our minds.

I feel with KOA's there is a standard that needs to be met and in my experience the KOA's that I have stayed in met or exceeded that standard, as opposed to the private ones in which I have had bad experiences on a whole. Yes you do pay a bit more to stay at a KOA as opposed to some of the private ones, but at least I know with a KOA that if I do have a problem and the owner/manager does not address it I can take it to the headquarters where I will be heard.and I don't mind paying extra for the amminities that KOA offers, there are not many places you can get a hotel for yourself and family for about 40 bucks a night and if you do find one I am sure
that the "guests" will be coming and going all day and night.

The only KOA that I found did not meet the standards set by KOA was Rapid City, but in consideration I was staying there it was jammed packed and Sturgus Bike Rally had just ended the day before, so it's not fair to judge the campground at that time due to that fact. The staff was working there tails off with a smile trying to keep everything up to par, the guests on the other hand were working just as hard to trash the place, I am sure if I had visited it a few weeks before or after it would of been much different.

I know that if Billings gets enough bad comments about a campground and the issues are not addressed that KOA will no longer carry the KOA name or depending on where it is located
it will be bought out and run by KOA such as the Virginia Beach KOA, and brought back up to the standards.

At private campgrounds I have run into to many owners who need major attitude adjustments
it's a chore to even check you in, some police the grounds like a jail warden. I had one yell at me because my 3 year old son found that the bathroom echo'd and it was 2 pm in the afternoon
and he was getting a kick out of saying Hi and hearing it said back, yet a seasonal camper
could blast there music well into the night and nothing was said.
I had one scream at us for the way we backing the camper in and I mean scream! No one showed us to our site and we sat there for about 5 to 10 minutes trying to decide which site was which, and just where the sites were as the distinction between the two was non exsistant, so we decided to give it a whirl, and the owner/staff must of been watching as soon as we got backed in (luckily we were not all set up) he came flying over on his golf cart and screamed
at us and then and only then in no uncertain terms told us where to put the camper.
Due to this I tend to shy away from private owned campgrounds.
Sunflyer
To each his own, but shying away from private campgrounds because of a few bad experiences.......well if you have a couple bad experiences at a KOA will you stop going to them?

One has only to look everyday at the new reviews coming in to see that private campgrounds appear to get 4-5 stars more often than the KOA's. A lot of private campgrounds must be doing something right in this consumer driven market.
Big Ben
We some time use Koa when in rout to our destinations.. There are both good and bad. Sallisaw Ok. was one that I remember from a couple years ago and it was excellent. Just checked to see its ratings 8, 7, 8, 8, 10, 10, 6, 8, 10, and 9. not to bad for a KOA.
Point is they are like all business, some good and some bad.
mollie
QUOTE(Cheryl @ Sep 30 2004, 06:41 AM) *

We have stayed at some very nice KOAs and some very bad ones. I think this website is the best to use to locate a good campground.
Just click on the map of the state that you want to visit (on the front page - http://rvparkreviews.com/ ) and you will be able to view honest opinions on a lot of different campgrounds, opinions posted by "regular" people just like yourself.


Now you do know that most of these parks are owned by just nomal people trying to make
a living. And go by other parks around them to decide their rates. KOA it's self does not
give them money to do upgrades or anything. And of course, some of the owners should
not be doing this anymore. It really is a FULL TIME job.
fireproof74
When staying at any KOA i always take a look at the website first and see the photos. I have had some good and some bad experiences, but as a general rule I try not to expect to be wowed by the KOA experience.
denbroncs
KOA's are like doctors; most are good & some are bad. Are you going to quit going to see the doc because of a few bad ones? I didn't think so. It's not much different with KOA - most are very good. It is simple minded to lump them all together as all good - or bad.
Old Dan
I'm a newcomer at RVing but this summer we started traveling and one thing I like about KOA is the ability to reserve on-line. No submitting dates and waiting for a reply. You know right away if a site is available. Since this spring we have stayed in a number of KOA campgrounds from Pennsylvania to Maine. I have found all the owners to be friendly and all the facilities to be adequate and clean. Some were better than others but all were OK. My experience with non-KOA campgrounds was more varied with terrible results in Shelburne Vermont and outstanding results in Lake George, NY. I don't consider the KOA's too pricey since I paid more in both my other experiences. I especially liked the KOA in Brattleboro, VT and in Freeport , ME. Unadilla, NY KOA was OK but seasonals were unsightly and party-central was just down the row from us. Allentown, PA was nice with plenty of shade while Saugerties, NY was rocky with plenty of mosquitos! Based on my very limited experience, I will continue to use KOA's unless something better comes up and, after reading reviews here, I'm doubtful that anything will. Good luck---Old Dan rolleyes.gif
Cheryl
QUOTE(mollie @ Jul 13 2007, 01:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Cheryl @ Sep 30 2004, 06:41 AM) *

We have stayed at some very nice KOAs and some very bad ones. I think this website is the best to use to locate a good campground.
Just click on the map of the state that you want to visit (on the front page - http://rvparkreviews.com/ ) and you will be able to view honest opinions on a lot of different campgrounds, opinions posted by "regular" people just like yourself.


Now you do know that most of these parks are owned by just nomal people trying to make
a living. And go by other parks around them to decide their rates. KOA it's self does not
give them money to do upgrades or anything. And of course, some of the owners should
not be doing this anymore. It really is a FULL TIME job.


I meant "regular people" as opposed to the directories that take advertising dollars from campgrounds and then rate them. I have nothing against campground owners.
Chris Blom
When I am travelling and stopping overnight, I usually use KOA's unless I know the area and its campgrounds. Reason is that KOA's are always clearly signed, from the Interstate clear to the campground entrance. When I am tired after a day's drive, I do NOT want to wander all over town looking for my campground. Been there done that a lot, and I really appreciate just following all those wonderful KOA signs.
I have stayed at one KOA that was pretty awful but I notice that campground is no longer affiliated with KOA. Mostly, they are decent middle-of-the-road places that you can trust will be clean and safe, and are EASY TO FIND.
Plus, they have after-hours checkin if you arrive late, as I too frequently do.
BJMA
My wife prefers a KOA, I on the other hand perfer to STAY AWAY from the KOA.

KOA = Keeps On Adding $$$$ - EVERYTHING seems to be an additional fee, on top of an already inflated fee.

I understand why, the KOA franchise fee must be HUGE.

I have had two bad experiances, both have been in a KOA, I see that neither are still KOA's today.
KAC
We just finished a 2 1/2 week trip through the Dakotas and Montana. We stayed at one KOA this time and that is the last one. I will say some are good, but usually expensive. The one we stayed at would get a 2 out of 10. Before we left I did some searching on the net and managed to find some great parks. One of th ebest was a state park in North Dakota.
KOA is always near the highway.
mastercraft
We have not stayed at many KOA's in the past. We did stay at 3 this year on our month trip out west. I had no complaints since they were what we needed. All three were one night stays, not destinations.All three were decent campgrounds near the interstate with a fuel stop nearby. At 2 of them the owners lived on site and were extremely nice and helpful. I know I am going to pay more for the KOA, but remember, you are usually paying for convienence and location. Sometimes you have to consider if the savings you are going to get by going out of your way to a nicer campground is worth the time it takes to get there.
katt
I had my 2nd worst camping experience at a KOA. If they would have at least addressed my concerns I would have been satisfied.
KOA corporate office made excuses, the campground owner could care less about his campers safety or campground cleanliness.

To me, KOA is all about drunks partying into the wee hours and filthy restrooms. Not family friendly at all!

I no longer stay at KOA's .
gilda
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gwbischoff
QUOTE(gilda @ Aug 25 2007, 10:17 PM) *

QUOTE(katt @ Aug 25 2007, 08:09 PM) *

I had my 2nd worst camping experience at a KOA. If they would have at least addressed my concerns I would have been satisfied.
KOA corporate office made excuses, the campground owner could care less about his campers safety or campground cleanliness.

To me, KOA is all about drunks partying into the wee hours and filthy restrooms. Not family friendly at all!

I no longer stay at KOA's .


Thats really too bad that you feel that way. Over 500 KOA's and you let one change your opinion of all. You obviously had a bad experience. You should let us all know the name of the park. KOA's are known for cleanliness. (especially the bathrooms).



Couldn't agree more. We just stayed a week at the KOA in Moab, Utah which couldn't have been quieter or had people any nicer running the camp.

Don't paint with such a broad brush.
HappiestCamper
QUOTE(gwbischoff @ Sep 7 2007, 05:16 PM) *

QUOTE(gilda @ Aug 25 2007, 10:17 PM) *

QUOTE(katt @ Aug 25 2007, 08:09 PM) *

I had my 2nd worst camping experience at a KOA. If they would have at least addressed my concerns I would have been satisfied.
KOA corporate office made excuses, the campground owner could care less about his campers safety or campground cleanliness.

To me, KOA is all about drunks partying into the wee hours and filthy restrooms. Not family friendly at all!

I no longer stay at KOA's .


Thats really too bad that you feel that way. Over 500 KOA's and you let one change your opinion of all. You obviously had a bad experience. You should let us all know the name of the park. KOA's are known for cleanliness. (especially the bathrooms).


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Couldn't agree more. We just stayed a week at the KOA in Moab, Utah which couldn't have been quieter or had people any nicer running the camp.

Don't paint with such a broad brush.


I'm afraid that in this case they are allowed to paint with the broad brush - they tried to get satisfaction out of corporate office (which represents all KOA's) - the brush is in corporate's hands at this point.
AceFace
>>Don't paint with such a broad brush.<<

The broad brush with KOA

1. You will pay more than just about any place else in the general area for your stay.
2. You receive a small degree of accountability from the higher powers that be that this is "suppose" to be a decent place to stay.

Those are about the ONLY 2 constants that I can think of.

I stay with them only when all other places in the general area seem like dogs.
gwbischoff
To me, KOA is all about drunks partying into the wee hours and filthy restrooms. Not family friendly at all!

I no longer stay at KOA's .


My point was obviously lost. If you "no longer stay at KOA's" because your "2nd worst experience" was at a KOA. Fine. God Bless America. Stay somewhere else. But this quote still stands:


Thats really too bad that you feel that way. Over 500 KOA's and you let one change your opinion of all. You obviously had a bad experience.


My worst camping experience was at a private campground. So by that logic, all independent campgrounds must be the same way. That's what I meant about "painting with a broad brush".

My guess is that this person had a really bad experience with drunks partying into the wee hours. Well, I've stayed in some really nice hotels that have booked weddings and proms during my stay and have seen my share of hotel guests vomiting in the hallways at 5-star resorts. That doesn't mean that every Marriott, Hilton or Ritz Carlton is like that.

Personally, I've never had that experience at a KOA but I'm not going to be ignorant enough to believe that it can't happen there.

As far as the corporate aspect of it. Again, if you didn't like the answers they gave you. Via con dios. Call them out on it. Give them a bad review. Never stay with them again. That's your right. But consider this. At least you had another option to vent your displeasure. What happens when you stay at "Joe's RV Park" and have a bad experience?
HappiestCamper
QUOTE(gwbischoff @ Sep 10 2007, 03:18 PM) *

As far as the corporate aspect of it. Again, if you didn't like the answers they gave you. Via con dios. Call them out on it. Give them a bad review. Never stay with them again. That's your right. But consider this. At least you had another option to vent your displeasure. What happens when you stay at "Joe's RV Park" and have a bad experience?


Yes, they had another option - and that option failed, so their opinions are warranted. If Joe owned two parks (Joe's RV Park North and Joe's RV Park South), and Joe flubbed your visit to his South park, then you would not want to venture into the North Park.

Yes, there are plenty of fine KOA's - but if you have a franchise through them, then you are going to be represented by the corporate office. Maybe some KOA owners will see this thread and demand that the act gets cleaned up.
RLM
Just some interesting figures to add to this discussion:

If you average all the numbered ratings for KOAs reviewed on this website the result is about a 6. There are a fair share of 10s and 1s. The 6 tells me that the overall company wide standard is low. The other two numbers pretty much indicate a love/hate relationship among reviewers...kinda like the thread on this subject.

KOAs currently for sale start at a half million bucks and go up. It takes alot of $40 nights to pay for that.

A few common review comments are: "Close to the highway so there was alot of road noise." "Good place for an overnighter." Humm? That can be had at Wal-Mart or a truck stop for nothing.

Guess some folks like to pay alot to camp in the middle of the interstate median.
gwbischoff
Again, I think my point is lost.

The "broad brush" comment was strictly to support your right to research and find the best campground for you and not eliminate a choice strictly because it was or wasn't a KOA.

This is where I was just last week:

http://moabkoa.com/
(not a commercial or an endorsement)

If you don't want to stay there because it's a KOA, fine. There are plenty of others in the town of Moab. Apart from one or maybe two others that I saw with my own two eyes, the rest were D-A-W-G, dogs!

Are there crappy KOA's that are located in highway medians? I'm sure there are. But KOA's don't have a monopoly on that market. Just like there are McDonald's in certain areas that you couldn't pay me to go into. But there's a nice McD's right down the street from my house that I'll go to if the mood hits me. I don't eat there every day. But I'm not going to avoid it because I saw a roach in the one I ate in in Des Moines.
RLM
[quote name='gwbischoff' date='Sep 11 2007, 12:18 PM' post='8304']
Again, I think my point is lost.
The "broad brush" comment was strictly to support your right to research and find the best campground for you and not eliminate a choice strictly because it was or wasn't a KOA.

GW> I have no "rights" to research or do anything else. The government took all of those away.

And, NO, your point was not lost...on none of the times that you repeatedly mentioned that fact. It was well stated and understood. Please give me credit for listening.

By the way, I've been to Moab. Very nice with or without a KOA.

How much cholestrol did the roach have?

That was a joke, so please accept it as such.
gwbischoff
[quote name='RLM' date='Sep 11 2007, 08:52 PM' post='8308']
[quote name='gwbischoff' date='Sep 11 2007, 12:18 PM' post='8304']
Again, I think my point is lost.
The "broad brush" comment was strictly to support your right to research and find the best campground for you and not eliminate a choice strictly because it was or wasn't a KOA.

GW> I have no "rights" to research or do anything else. The government took all of those away.

And, NO, your point was not lost...on none of the times that you repeatedly mentioned that fact. It was well stated and understood. Please give me credit for listening.

By the way, I've been to Moab. Very nice with or without a KOA.

How much cholestrol did the roach have?

That was a joke, so please accept it as such.
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No worries.

My response was geared more toward some of the other replies rather than yours.

I think part of the problem stems from the title of the post "KOA-Good or Bad". As if every KOA has to fall into one category. They're just like all the others out there. You'll find some beauty queens and some are pigs.

Moab's a great area. Liked it alot.
Patster1234
I am a newbie here. After reading many of the posts regarding KOA's, I am curious where those of you who do not prefer KOA's choose to stay?? And also what are the prices for the sites you choose??

We have used KOA's as a 1st choice and only found 1 or 2 not being up to an acceptable level. I find the majority of them to be clean, the sites level, the grounds well kept.
We have been rv'ing for approximately three years and have travelled across the country twice.
pianotuna
Hi Patster,

I find KOA campgrounds to be on the expensive side, even after using their "discount" card. I prefer to find very inexpensive campgrounds as most of my stays are just "over night". Have a look at http://freecampgrounds.com/ for the type of facility I want.

I also find the Koa's don't allow much room between sites.

QUOTE(Patster1234 @ Sep 27 2007, 06:15 PM) *

I am a newbie here. After reading many of the posts regarding KOA's, I am curious where those of you who do not prefer KOA's choose to stay?? And also what are the prices for the sites you choose??

We have used KOA's as a 1st choice and only found 1 or 2 not being up to an acceptable level. I find the majority of them to be clean, the sites level, the grounds well kept.
We have been rv'ing for approximately three years and have travelled across the country twice.
ddbradley952
QUOTE(easyrider65_01 @ Sep 30 2004, 01:22 AM) *

I am relatively new to owning an RV and I was wondering if KOAs as a whole are nice or if it better to stay non-franchise cg s. I f have stayed a few KOAs and I get the feeling that KOA does not monitor the cgs that are not in the more tourist areas. I plan on doing a lot of traveling and KOA has a great website to locate a cg. I hope that my poor experiences have been the exception rather than the norm. So, as a whole are KOAs to be avoided mad.gif or enjoyed biggrin.gif ?



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Warren Wilke
Looks like Mr. Bradley has way to much time on his hands. dry.gif . I understand from a friend (who has a camp ground and just sighed up with KOA), the chain has recently been purchased by a multi-millionaire and is sinking a lot of money to upgrade the chain. They have helped him put in a swimming pool, advertise with signs on the interstates and local roads, put in WiFi, etc.
So far, we have stayed in 4 KOAs on our 5000 mile trip (2 1/2 weeks into it) and have been well satisfied with all of them. I have seen some disparaging comments on this web site about some of them, and bypassed those parks (ignoring those comments that seem to be personality conflicts). Hopefully the whole chain will be good in the future, but it takes a while to turn a battleship around. As has been mentioned, it's best to check here and make an educated guess as to where to stay.
katt
QUOTE(gilda @ Aug 25 2007, 10:17 PM) *

QUOTE(katt @ Aug 25 2007, 08:09 PM) *

I had my 2nd worst camping experience at a KOA. If they would have at least addressed my concerns I would have been satisfied.
KOA corporate office made excuses, the campground owner could care less about his campers safety or campground cleanliness.

To me, KOA is all about drunks partying into the wee hours and filthy restrooms. Not family friendly at all!

I no longer stay at KOA's .


Thats really too bad that you feel that way. Over 500 KOA's and you let one change your opinion of all. You obviously had a bad experience. You should let us all know the name of the park. KOA's are known for cleanliness. (especially the bathrooms).



The KOA at the Wisconsin Dells is a Presidents Award Winner for KOA. It is along the railroad tracks which preclude it from being "quiet", an advertising point made by THE OWNERS AND KOA CENTRAL. The train is so loud I could not shout to you at the site and you hear me!

It was advertised as clean although I can attest the satellite restrooms were NOT CLEANED for at least 2 days when I stayed there.
It was advertised as family friendly yet they want the drunks and not the families!

Both KOA and Wisconsin Dells KOA abdicated their responsibility where the safety and comfort of their campers are concerned. The owners/ managers were hiding. Almost $40 a night and they hide rather than enforce their own rules or take responsibility for their park.

Over 500 KOA's and I let one of THEIR Presidents Award Winners change my mind!
KOA thinks drunks are family friendly! KOA Refuses to admit the noise or the filth at their campgrounds.
I saw it. I heard it. They are liars! Plain and simple. If other campgrounds want this reputation, they can take on the KOA banner.

If KOA wants to clean up their act they will have to eliminate the false advertising at MANY of their properties.


We can hear the noise at the "quiet" parks they advertise next to trains and interstates.
We can see and smell the filth at KOA's restrooms where they advertise cleanliness.

All anyone has to do is visit to find the truth. They can lie once? And then what? Goodbye KOA! You taught me what is worst in a campground!

Good God! Have some backbone and take responsibility for yourselves! The obscenity you have become!
Just how many drunken idiots with 8 foot tall fires does KOA need to call themselves family friendly? I counted 3!
At just the ONE "PRESIDENTS AWARD WINNING KAMPGROUND" no less!

I am sick of your filth! Keep your freebie nights at your noisy, filthy campgrounds, I will camp somewhere clean and quiet!

KOA disgusts me! 500 opportunities for filth!!! You should be ashamed!!!!
gilda
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katt
gilda, THINK!

Just once try it.

You stay at a campground. They advertise HEAVILY about how "family friendly" and "quiet" their campground is, they advertise how "clean" they are, yet the bathrooms are filthy, their "families" are drunken jerks and the only time the drunks cannot be heard is when the train is drowning out all sound waves in human hearing range.
You get home and contact their main office only to be blown off by some guy not even from this country and hasn't a clue where the campground is even located.

You seem to believe that if you get a crap meal somewhere you should go back and eat more crap?

Keep eating your crap. I will go elsewhere and pay someone else to do their job correctly. KOA doesn't give a damn what garbage you eat just so long as you keep swallowing!
gilda
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denbroncs
I've had a poor meal at Ruth's Chris steakhouse- that does not indicate that all steak is bad. I've had a doctor that I did not care for - that certainly does not mean that all doctors are awful. Do I still eat steak? Of course. Will I ever go back to the doctor? Absolutely.

It appears that you would be well-served, Katt, to pay your proctologist a visit.
gwbischoff
Aye caramba...

So, by your logic katt, if my worst camping experience was in a private, non-KOA, park, that I should never go back to another private park. ('Cause we all know that private parks never false advertise or are next to railroad tracks.). Or if it were a National or State Park I should never go to another one.

AND I SHOULD HAVE AN ANEUYRSM WHENEVER I TALK ABOUT IT!!!! ohmy.gif

Get a grip. Have a Coke and a smile. Get a hug. Switch to decaf and go to another park.
Bud in Florida
I have stayed at some very nice KOAs and some not so nice. Sounds like all the campgrounds I have stayed at! Some are nice, some not so nice. I hate to see people paint with such a broad brush. With KOA you get a certain minimum standard of cleanliness and facilities. It is a private campground-- the owner is trying to make a profit, so it is more expensive than state campgrounds. See them for what they are. Check out the review and web site and then decicde. Not all are great not all are the pits-- pick and choose and be glad that people are willing in invest lots of money so we have a place to park our RVs
mogulman
Koa's are nice for a quick stop. They are always there when you need them. Unfortunately they are next to major freeways, airports, or train tracks. Wouldn't stay at one for more than 2 days.
leftyf
QUOTE(Bud in Florida @ Oct 14 2007, 10:45 AM) *

I have stayed at some very nice KOAs and some not so nice. Sounds like all the campgrounds I have stayed at! Some are nice, some not so nice. I hate to see people paint with such a broad brush. With KOA you get a certain minimum standard of cleanliness and facilities. It is a private campground-- the owner is trying to make a profit, so it is more expensive than state campgrounds. See them for what they are. Check out the review and web site and then decicde. Not all are great not all are the pits-- pick and choose and be glad that people are willing in invest lots of money so we have a place to park our RVs


I have never stayed at a bad KOA and I've been to a lot of them. I have other campgrounds that I prefer and other chains that I really don't want to stay at again.

You can't tar the entire chain because you had a bad experience at one.
Testudo
Gee ! Is this topic _still_ going ?!?! (I wonder when the last time was that 'Cheryl' posted on it ???)

Campgrounds are like a box of choc-lates: You never know what you'll get (...at least not until you've checked in with RVPARKREVIEWS.COM !!!).

Back in 2005, I earned a _free_ KOA Gold Card membership (...that year was like 'Kamping On Acid' !!!). I'm no apologist for KOA and I've turned-tail and run away from KOAs such as those described by 'katt'...

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They advertise HEAVILY about how "family friendly" and "quiet" their campground is, they advertise how "clean" they are, yet the bathrooms are filthy, their "families" are drunken jerks and the only time the drunks cannot be heard is when the train is drowning out all sound waves in human hearing range...


...I know KOAs can be Kind Of Annoying but, over the years, Kindnesses Often Appeared, at least, in my experience. I've met some really _nice_ people who owned, worked, or camped at KOAs. KOAs are nearly all owned by franchisees. It is not some sort of corporate plot, as such. The prices tend to run a little higher because there is the added cost of paying the _franchiser_. But, aside from that, they are like any other campground -- the downside is only limited by your imagination.

For people who want to know if KOA stands for "Keep On Accelerating", I would say: Don't worry about it. Just check one out while avoiding any preconceived notions. You might find that it works for you. Start every new endeavor with a negative mindset and the outcome will surely be self-prophesizing. It would be Kind Of Assinine to avoid something that might be helpful to you -- just because a few other people Keelover Of Apoplexy.

So take it from a Kleptomaniacal Old Aardvark ( ...huh !?!?!): Kick Out Accusers and Kibbitz Over America!
Butch
Good Grief
Cheryl
Why do you care when or if I post on a thread, or were you referring to Cheryl Fuller?
denbroncs
QUOTE(Cheryl @ Oct 26 2007, 09:06 PM) *

Why do you care when or if I post on a thread, or were you referring to Cheryl Fuller?


I think he was frustrated in trying to figure out how to spell your name with a "K."
sparky
KOA's as a whole to me are very tight to get into your site and manuvering out same thing
I have been in some--there is NO way to feel comfortable in,
I wish They-would listen to campers---as RV's get bigger-KOA's just don't cut it.
My Favorite is Wilmington, NC KOA , they have always treated me and my friends wonderfully
my 2 cents
sparky.
Testudo
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Why do you care when or if I post on a thread, or were you referring to Cheryl Fuller?

Yeah, sorry, I was referring to 'Cheryl Fuller' (...although, I've often wondered if you 'both' weren't one and the same [shrug]).
Testudo
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KOA's as a whole to me are very tight to get into your site and manuvering out same thing ...as RV's get bigger-KOA's just don't cut it.


I can appreciate those feelings. Still, KOAs come and go from the system all the time. Every year I receive a questionaire from 'corporate' with regard to what is obviously a marginal campground in the system that is being considered for the 'ax'. But ironically, I actually like hard to get into camp grounds because I have a 20' pop-top truck camper so, then, I don't have to compete with the 'big boys' for space. Another irony is that my review ratings are weighted for the needs of people with 'big rigs' [grin!]. I mean, personally, I could care less about 99% of the gripes of big rig owners but, then, they dominate the 'sport' so it is one of the five 'points' that I try to cater to in my reviews.

Big rig owners can be hard to figure out. They'll castigate a campground in a review because the neighboring land owner has a tree on their property but they give a raving '10' to a campground where the entry road would qualify as a class 3 offroad trail [shrug]. There is just no pleasing them.
Cheryl
No, we are not one and the same. Although, we do have many things in common. Anyway, last I heard from her, she doesn't visit this site very much anymore.
RLM
IT IS OBVIOUS THAT KOA IS A LOVE/HATE RELATIONSHIP AMONG THE REVIEWERS ON THIS WEBSITE GROUP.

I SUSPECT THAT NO ONE IS GOING TO CHANGE THEIR OPINION, SO CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON TO OTHER ISSUES???

WEBMASTER, PLEASE PUT A MATCH TO THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gilda
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