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B. Kidd
We have spent the last two winters at a RV resort in Yuma. For some reason, last year we had more snowbirds then the year before whom RV with 2-3 dogs (mostly small ones) but walk them (or shall I say, the dogs walk them) with extension dog leashes; and they failed to keep them on a shorter leash. The park does have a lengthy dog walk, but this occurred on the way to the dog walk.
One lady walked three daschunds at the same time and she let them urinate on the front part of my site and my front tire covers 3-4 times. Finally, I politely confronted her about it, and she did not say anything in response, but if looks could kill, well, I would not be posting this now.
Anyways, to make a long story longer, a few similar isolated instances occurred with single dog owners.
I'm not the type to run to park mgmt. over every little thing, so halfway through last season I bought Repel II Dog Repellant granules and spread them generously over the front of my site.
Result: No Problemo!
Works great in small areas, like the front of my back-in site.
BTW, I like dogs, don't own any.
Repel II available at Wal-Marts or Petco.
hoefler
Ammonia in a squirt bottle works well as well.
RFCN2
I love my dog but would not in a million years let her urinate on someone's rv wheel covers. Very very rude and inconsiderate. I do let ours hit the grass with number one, but never close to someone's coach.
HappiestCamper
QUOTE(B. Kidd @ Oct 12 2011, 05:42 PM) *

I bought Repel II Dog Repellant granules and spread them generously over the front of my site.


And for those of us that are responsible dog owners that happen to get the site after you - what happens to my dog now that we are in a site full of this? Do you clean up the repellant before you leave?
Again, it's just like someone said in another post when someone mentioned a walker letting their dog go on someone's cooler - he said if that happened to him, he would drop kick the dog. You are punishing the dogs, not the irresponsible owners.
B. Kidd
QUOTE(HappiestCamper @ Oct 13 2011, 05:53 AM) *

And for those of us that are responsible dog owners that happen to get the site after you - what happens to my dog now that we are in a site full of this? Do you clean up the repellant before you leave?
Again, it's just like someone said in another post when someone mentioned a walker letting their dog go on someone's cooler - he said if that happened to him, he would drop kick the dog. You are punishing the dogs, not the irresponsible owners.



Self-admitted, responsible dog owners, like yourself, are to be commended.
Granules are to be lightly sprinkled, not piled onto the ground. They become inert/inactive/ineffective after one week of application. Dousing with water speeds up that process, which I do at my Yuma site before I leave, as it rarely rains there.
I also stay at my Yuma retreat for 4-5 months every winter, and reserve the same site every winter season for the past 2 years and am headin' there again this winter.
I never have, or would use 'Repellant II' at short term sites.
Your accusation of dog punishing, comparing what I'm doing to kickin' dogs is just, well,...... wrong.
B. Kidd
QUOTE(hoefler @ Oct 12 2011, 06:38 PM) *

Ammonia in a squirt bottle works well as well.



Thanx for the tip 'H'.
Might try at shorter term sites, like 1-2 weeks, that I stay at in the future and encounter this problem.
abbygolden
QUOTE(hoefler @ Oct 12 2011, 08:38 PM) *

Ammonia in a squirt bottle works well as well.


I can just imagine the problems this could cause. One would assume that the dog is on a lead with the owner being on the other end. Using a spray bottle to spray the dog also opens the possibility of spraying the owner. You can imagine the legal problems this would open. If it happened to me I'd sue so fast it would make your head spin.

That said, I'm one of the responsible owners. My dogs are always on no more than a 6' lead and never are allowed to go on another RV owners property unless invited. My pockets always have poop bags, just in case (for them, not me, although... biggrin.gif )

The best way to keep a dog from defiling your space is to ask the owner to control his dog. If that fails, see the park management and complain. If that fails, sue both parties. I think that's really petty, but if it means that much to you that is a logical way of doing things. Temeber that you don't own the space, you are just using it for awhile. It's common courtesy to respect that your space is yours, but you don't OWN it and I doubt that if it ever came to it that you could defend you actions in court.
Texasrvers
I could be wrong, but I thought the post about spraying ammonia meant that it should be sprayed on the ground, NOT the dog. Good grief, spraying it on the dog would be horrible!

Also this is a little off topic, but I have noticed that we sure are a "sue happy" bunch. There have been several posts recently that the suggested solution to a problem is to sue the other party. Just an observation; and I'd probably sue if someone sprayed my dog with ammonia.

HappiestCamper
QUOTE(B. Kidd @ Oct 13 2011, 05:24 PM) *

Self-admitted, responsible dog owners, like yourself, are to be commended.
Granules are to be lightly sprinkled, not piled onto the ground. They become inert/inactive/ineffective after one week of application. Dousing with water speeds up that process, which I do at my Yuma site before I leave, as it rarely rains there.
I also stay at my Yuma retreat for 4-5 months every winter, and reserve the same site every winter season for the past 2 years and am headin' there again this winter.
I never have, or would use 'Repellant II' at short term sites.
Your accusation of dog punishing, comparing what I'm doing to kickin' dogs is just, well,...... wrong.


Thanks for the clarification. I didn't intend for you to be compared to kicking a dog, just that the dogs were being punished for stupid owners.
Florida Native
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just that the dogs were being punished for stupid owners.


Sounds like maybe the dogs should sue the stupid owners.
B. Kidd
Hap-Camper, looking back on my OP, I can see that clarification was needed. You brought up valid concerns.
Myself, I didn't take 'hoefler''s post to mean that one actually sprays the dog with ammonia.
FosterImposters
Amazing thread.
I too, have had to ward off reasonably intelliegent dogs towing oblivious humans.
Spritzing diluted bleach water on the gravel at the front of the rig worked wonders. It breaks down in the sun, so one needs to spritz every other morning (or so) before the thundering herd of dog walkers hit.

Don't spray your tires. ohmy.gif
We were lucky in that we could park far enough to the back of our lot that dogs passed us by before they could get to the tires.

Their owners never had a clue.
wink.gif
Texasrvers
QUOTE(FosterImposters @ Oct 26 2011, 11:24 PM) *

reasonably intelliegent dogs towing oblivious humans.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
BC Wanderer
QUOTE(Texasrvers @ Oct 26 2011, 09:49 PM) *

reasonably intelliegent dogs towing oblivious humans.


We have just returned from a month long trip where we have stayed an numerous parks. Some up-scale resorts, some Mom & Pop over-nighters and lots in between. What I have noticed at a lot of parks these days are heavy handed rules and mostly relating to dogs. There was a time not so long ago when there were very few rules. Common sense prevailed and pretty much everyone got along.

I think we dog owning campers are creating an atmosphere of not being welcome anymore. We stayed at one park in Wilsonville Or. that, although they say they will allow pets, is so restricted that if you have a pet......don't bother staying there. This was the extreme but the tone seems to becoming more common.

I believe I am a responsible dog owner. We have travelled with a dog for over forty years now. We have always cleaned up after them. We do it at home and it's no different when we are away. We have a Miniature Poodle at present. I think they may be considered one of the yappyest breeds but she has been taught to stop barking. I won't say that she doesn't bark at all but she does stop on command. We know her schedule thus are "ready for her". When she has to go, we are usually in the designated area (if there is one).

I think that I am doing all the right things to minimize her affect on other campers but am I, and other pet owners, being "oblivious"? Or are there that may irresponsible people who have pets out there?
nedmtnman
QUOTE(JDOLLEN @ Oct 27 2011, 05:12 AM) *

We have just returned from a month long trip where we have stayed an numerous parks. Some up-scale resorts, some Mom & Pop over-nighters and lots in between. What I have noticed at a lot of parks these days are heavy handed rules and mostly relating to dogs. There was a time not so long ago when there were very few rules. Common sense prevailed and pretty much everyone got along.


We worked at an RV Park this summer as camp hosts. it was close to ATV trails so the ONLY rule we has was no riding of 4 wheelers in the park except to and from trails. I told folks that we didn't have a lot of rules. Just the Golden one. That worked well.
Wink
QUOTE(JDOLLEN @ Oct 27 2011, 06:12 AM) *


I think that I am doing all the right things to minimize her affect on other campers but am I, and other pet owners, being "oblivious"? Or are there that may irresponsible people who have pets out there?


In a short answer yes.Had a woman two sites from ours with three dogs at Fort Pickens in Florida that let her dog crap with in three feet in front of my steps and left it there.I did confront her with Lady I don`t crap next to your trailer so why do you let your dog do it to other campers? She had to go to her trailer and look for something to get it up in so she had no intention of picking up after them and these were not small dogs. Not that there is that many that do this kind of thing but it hurts the rest of pet owners and that is what is remembered.We were there two weeks and I am sure that may be twenty dogs a day came by our sight but that was the one I remembered. mad.gif I did see a few more at this same park in that two weeks not picking up but at least they were in the woods and not on a camp site.
FosterImposters
Wink is right. Unfortunately we remember the ones that are oblivious.
Currently across the street from what now is considered a "good" dog owner.
Morning: Door opens and dog comes out. No leash.

She completes her 'affairs' and goes back to the door to be let in. Owner comes out and cleans up. First hurdle cleared.

Next the owners come out, lock the RV door and drive off. Dog barking / howling inside RV. At least she tires of howling after a couple hours. Poor creature.

Owners return by mid-day and let her out again. Still no leash. Whew, she got to relieve herself again. Thank God (yellow lab) she knows where her boundries are.

Owners clean up and start the bbq and beers. Now, THEY become the issue. At least their dog is sleeping quietly under their rig...no leash.

Lower your expectations. cool.gif
Tallboy
I haven't had any problems with owners letting their dogs pee on our things. Have had to clean up dog poo in a couple of sites we came into, but never after we have been there. Did have one guy have the problem with dog poo in front of his site. He went out and got several of these little flags on a wire and put them around the dog poo for all to see. No problems after that. laugh.gif

I have more problems with barking dogs. Kids running around screaming. No problem. Barking dog is like fingernails down a chalkboard. Talking about barking dogs to most owners is a waste of time. I think one of these days I'm going to get a recorder and some very large speakers and play their dogs barking back at them at 3 AM. smile.gif
Emy
QUOTE(nedmtnman @ Oct 27 2011, 09:09 AM) *

We worked at an RV Park this summer as camp hosts. it was close to ATV trails so the ONLY rule we has was no riding of 4 wheelers in the park except to and from trails. I told folks that we didn't have a lot of rules. Just the Golden one. That worked well.



Great idea..... on saying you have one main rule. I own a business and will be using this one. smile.gif
B. Kidd
QUOTE(B. Kidd @ Oct 12 2011, 02:42 PM) *

We have spent the last two winters at a RV resort in Yuma. For some reason, last year we had more snowbirds then the year before whom RV with 2-3 dogs (mostly small ones) but walk them (or shall I say, the dogs walk them) with extension dog leashes; and they failed to keep them on a shorter leash. The park does have a lengthy dog walk, but this occurred on the way to the dog walk.
One lady walked three daschunds at the same time and she let them urinate on the front part of my site and my front tire covers 3-4 times. Finally, I politely confronted her about it, and she did not say anything in response, but if looks could kill, well, I would not be posting this now.
Anyways, to make a long story longer, a few similar isolated instances occurred with single dog owners.
I'm not the type to run to park mgmt. over every little thing, so halfway through last season I bought Repel II Dog Repellant granules and spread them generously over the front of my site.
Result: No Problemo!
Works great in small areas, like the front of my back-in site.
BTW, I like dogs, don't own any.
Repel II available at Wal-Marts or Petco.



PostScript:
Spent 5 months in Yuma this year.
Not a dog stain on my tirecovers this whole season.........not that some of them wanted to!
melvonnar
QUOTE(B. Kidd @ Apr 4 2012, 03:24 PM) *

PostScript:
Spent 5 months in Yuma this year.
Not a dog stain on my tirecovers this whole season.........not that some of them wanted to!

Dog owners are like parents of roudy kids

Quote:
I pick up after my dog
truth:
If no ones looking
Quote:
My dog doesn't bite
truth:
little fido has half your leg in his mouth
Quote;
my dog doesn;t bark
truth:
he barks all the time but I"ve gotton so used to it I don"t here him

I could go on and on and on and on
louimaurer
So many point of views here. This is something that dog owners should take a note of.


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vincee
melvonnar has hit it on the head. When I had my dog, a beautiful Border Collie/Shepherd mix that looked like a wolf, I would walk him in a local park. If we came up on people that thought he looked mean, I would always say "Don't worry he's friendly" until this one time I had this guy tell me "that's what all you dog owners say!) and it struck me how stupid I sounded! Never said it again unless asked in advance "is he's friendly?".
dog bone
I was asked if my dog bit. I said no. After I pulled the dog off the guy, he said I thought you said your dog didn't bite. I replied this is not my dog.
Tsimpson69
I'm sorta new to this site but something on this thread really bugs me, well several things. I agree that sometimes dog owners get accustomed to things and may forget what their cute fluffy is doing bothers the crap out of people. No pun intended. But those of you that are using repellents etc (ammonia) etc to keep dogs away really should stop and think about what you are doing. If a dog or any wild or domesticated animal ingests something you put out and becomes sick or dies you can be held responsible. Here is the part you really should consider, it in many states it would be a FELONY animal cruelty. You really should consider your actions. Defending yourself from a felony at best may bankrupt you. At worst you will end up possibly serving some time. This sounds extreme but it's not. If someone is letting fluffy deface your property call the law and let them handle it. Notify the resort etc. but don't put your liberty and families livelihood In jeopardy! Ok back to your regularly scheduled program!
melvonnar
QUOTE(Tsimpson69 @ Apr 14 2013, 01:36 AM) *

I'm sorta new to this site but something on this thread really bugs me, well several things. I agree that sometimes dog owners get accustomed to things and may forget what their cute fluffy is doing bothers the crap out of people. No pun intended. But those of you that are using repellents etc (ammonia) etc to keep dogs away really should stop and think about what you are doing. If a dog or any wild or domesticated animal ingests something you put out and becomes sick or dies you can be held responsible. Here is the part you really should consider, it in many states it would be a FELONY animal cruelty. You really should consider your actions. Defending yourself from a felony at best may bankrupt you. At worst you will end up possibly serving some time. This sounds extreme but it's not. If someone is letting fluffy deface your property call the law and let them handle it. Notify the resort etc. but don't put your liberty and families livelihood In jeopardy! Ok back to your regularly scheduled program!


I"m not worried about being sued from fluffy's owner when I put out my dog repelent' But fluffy's owner should be worried if fluffy bites me'; my first call will be to an atorney because I"ll sue the pants off the owner.
Do I hate dogs? "no" Just fluffys owner that thinks their dog is perfeck and an do no wrong.
Tsimpson69
QUOTE(melvonnar @ Apr 14 2013, 11:07 AM) *

I"m not worried about being sued from fluffy's owner when I put out my dog repelent' But fluffy's owner should be worried if fluffy bites me'; my first call will be to an atorney because I"ll sue the pants off the owner.
Do I hate dogs? "no" Just fluffys owner that thinks their dog is perfeck and an do no wrong.

I agree if Fluffy bites you his owner will be in a world of trouble, and rightly should be held responsible. I am talking about the repellent you put out. If it kills the dog, or a wild animal, in most states today you will be in trouble. I am not talking about a civil problem from the dog's owner, I am talking about criminal charges you can face. I do know what I am talking about, I am a retired criminal prosecutor. I meant it as a precaution and something to think about. AZ is a state that has STIFF criminal fines and possible jail time for animal cruelty. You put out a chemical agent for what ever reason (even if the bottle says it's harmless) you are responsible for any damage caused by it. I don't even want to think about what happens if a child were to happen to ingest it.

Dog owner's really should take better care of where they let little precious roam, yap, poop, etc. Then this whole conversation would be pointless!

Oh and one last point, If a Federally Protected (Endangered Species) Animal were to come in contact with the repellent and die, If you are caught you will be in a world of trouble you can't even fathom. Just food for thought.

Referenced: Arizona Criminal Code Title 13, Chapter 29 (13-2910)

melvonnar
QUOTE(Tsimpson69 @ Apr 14 2013, 01:42 PM) *

I agree if Fluffy bites you his owner will be in a world of trouble, and rightly should be held responsible. I am talking about the repellent you put out. If it kills the dog, or a wild animal, in most states today you will be in trouble. I am not talking about a civil problem from the dog's owner, I am talking about criminal charges you can face. I do know what I am talking about, I am a retired criminal prosecutor. I meant it as a precaution and something to think about. AZ is a state that has STIFF criminal fines and possible jail time for animal cruelty. You put out a chemical agent for what ever reason (even if the bottle says it's harmless) you are responsible for any damage caused by it. I don't even want to think about what happens if a child were to happen to ingest it.

Dog owner's really should take better care of where they let little precious roam, yap, poop, etc. Then this whole conversation would be pointless!

Oh and one last point, If a Federally Protected (Endangered Species) Animal were to come in contact with the repellent and die, If you are caught you will be in a world of trouble you can't even fathom. Just food for thought.

Referenced: Arizona Criminal Code Title 13, Chapter 29 (13-2910)


As always: The acusser must have proof positive; As an X
criminal prosecutor you must know this. I"ve read of criminals getting off even if guilty on a tecknacality. (sorry about the spelling).

There is nothing that gets people worked up more than a negitive post about their fluffy. The preceding posts are proof of that.
Tom
QUOTE(Tsimpson69 @ Apr 14 2013, 12:42 PM) *

I agree if Fluffy bites you his owner will be in a world of trouble, and rightly should be held responsible. I am talking about the repellent you put out. If it kills the dog, or a wild animal, in most states today you will be in trouble. I am not talking about a civil problem from the dog's owner, I am talking about criminal charges you can face. I do know what I am talking about, I am a retired criminal prosecutor. I meant it as a precaution and something to think about. AZ is a state that has STIFF criminal fines and possible jail time for animal cruelty. You put out a chemical agent for what ever reason (even if the bottle says it's harmless) you are responsible for any damage caused by it. I don't even want to think about what happens if a child were to happen to ingest it.

Dog owner's really should take better care of where they let little precious roam, yap, poop, etc. Then this whole conversation would be pointless!

Oh and one last point, If a Federally Protected (Endangered Species) Animal were to come in contact with the repellent and die, If you are caught you will be in a world of trouble you can't even fathom. Just food for thought.

Referenced: Arizona Criminal Code Title 13, Chapter 29 (13-2910)




These repellants are just that, repellant. They smell bad. I can't imagine an animal or kid ingesting them. From what I've read, most repellants are actually made from natural, non-toxic ingredients that fade quickly, many times only lasting 1-2 weeks.

Animal repellants are used very commonly around home gardens (especially to ward of deer!!), and I've never heard of a problem with them. Almost any garden center carries them.
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