Okay for a one night stay. We were parked in the upper, rear area. Mostly gravel sites, level with dirt and dead grass between sites. Not a location we would consider staying in the future. General maintenance appeared to be lacking at the time of our stay. Toward the end of their season. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Gunsmoke is a nice RV park with clean restrooms and showers. All facilities function correctly. Good location for touring Dodge City. We would stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Previous reviews made us wary, but we've had a great stay and recommend this park. Train is near, but sites in back of park are far enough away. Owners are on site and very nice. We camped here in a Motorhome.
My first impression of this park was not good in that we arrived late in the evening and was told the site information would be in a "late arrival" box. The info was not there. However, the manager had given me the gate code and site number earlier over the phone so it was no problem finding where we were supposed to go. They apologized profusely the next morning and I thought they were very friendly and nice. The restrooms, shower, and laundry areas were clean. It had a nice pool, game room, and large store. Parking was level and sites were clearly marked. I also liked that it was gated. Dogs are welcome but there are strict guidelines like with any other park. Our only dislike was the train horn at 8am. It is very loud and there's no such thing as sleeping in at this park. We were there 2 nights. We would camp there again. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
We have been traveling for the last three weeks, and this RV park has the most rude attendants I have ever seen. They were so rude that I initially wondered if it was a part of some sort of show: it wasn't. This park will be stricken from my future visit list. Thank goodness we are gone tomorrow. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Older park, getting a little worn around the edges. Staff are as nice as they can be given he has 2 bad knees. Comes in two sections. Ask for the back section. Well back off the highway so only the occasional train to break the quiet. All utilities worked well. Strong WiFi. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
This is a great park and the only reason I gave it a 9 instead of a ten is the river rock they've used on the sites. It's hard to walk on and easy to twist an ankle if you're not careful. The staff and facilities are first rate. WiFi worked great and the cable TV provided access to the local weather channels, which a couple of times proved very handy to have! We will definitely stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Small well run park. Pull through sites accommodate large rigs. We camped here in a 36' motorhome. Best sites are toward the back of the park away from the highway if the occasional passing truck is an issue. Management was helpful and friendly. Would stay again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Friendly staff, clean grounds park in 2 sections back is away from road and well kept. Will stay there again is very good for overnight. We camped here in a Motorhome.
The park just opened for the season and we seem to be the only RV here, so it is very quiet. We are behind the office and away from the highway so it is quiet in that aspect also. Very rural setting west of town. The only negative was the rate was much higher than quoted in The Trailer Life Directory. We camped here in a Motorhome.
The sites next to the highway, close to the office, laundry and pool are good for one night. The sites out back have much more room. No fire ring. The area needs attention with an assorted sized gravel from very fine to river rocks. I suspect that the Wi-Fi is only good at the sites close to the office. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
The owners of this park are fantastic. They are so friendly and make you feel like family from the moment you check in. The pool was not open because it was after Labor Day. Wi-Fi was excellent, laundry room was clean, our site was very long pull through easy in and out. With no recent rain it was dusty due to the gravel road but that is my only complaint and that is not the park's fault. We would definitely stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Decent park. Close to all attractions. We stayed in back, in a pull through with wide sites. Staff was friendly. Train is fairly close. Would stay again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
The owners are very friendly and helpful. WiFi is great as well as the TV. Site was level, but it is just dust and dirt even though we did have one small tree. We were in site #13, up front, so maybe some of the back sites are better. Convenient for the sites. Good overnight stop, but would not want to stay here for very long because of the dust. We camped here in a Truck Camper.
We stayed in the back section. The interior roads have huge stones that are almost impossible to walk on. The owner was not the least bit friendly when we checked in. Took us back to our site but just drove through it and left without saying a word. There is nothing special about this park but it is adequate for a night or two. We camped here in a Motorhome.
The park is clean and easy to access. We stayed in the back area using one of the nice pull-through sites. This is our 3rd stop here and we like it for an overnight stop. The pool looked nice and clean. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Great spot. Owners very friendly. Restrooms and showers were ultra-clean. Good water pressure and lots of hot water. Wi-Fi signal was strong. Numerous channels on cable TV. We did hear the train, but it wasn't disturbing. The pet rules were short and sweet (just basically be considerate of others). Located next to the Casino and right on Rt 50, so easy in and out. Will stay here again! We camped here in a Motorhome.
This rating is based on having a site up front, in back it probably would have been a little higher. I wonder if the Good Sam/Trailer Life reviewers actually stayed here. Let me start with the good things easy to find, excellent TV, excellent Wi-Fi, pool looked well taken care of, laundry was good. On the negative side: interior roads were rough and need gravel not rocks, 20 minutes of listening to how to handle our Pomeranian while there and how to park the fifth wheel. After another lecture from the owner that we parked wrong, I jockeyed the trailer to have 8" clearance from tree and 7" from electrical (measured). We could not move the picnic tables as they were chained together around the tree. When someone pulled in next to us we almost walked into each others rigs. We lost track of the number of trains at all hours of the day and night blowing their whistles for the road crossing across the highway. The owners were not friendly at all unless you were spending money. I doubt we will ever stay here again unless possibly trying the back parking area. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Not a bad campground but they sure used the wrong size rocks to re gravel the roads. We stayed in the back and felt it was fairly quiet nice grounds good dog walk are, Wi-Fi some of the best and lots of cable channels, would stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
We have a business and use the internet constantly while on trip so WiFi is very important to us. This RV park had excellent WiFi: extremely fast. Most sites had lots of trees and the park was easy to drive into. We'd highly recommend it. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Sites in back are best. Level and away from noise of highway. We do not tow and we did rent a vehicle from local Toyota dealership which they delivered to us. Rock driveway at entry of park is so hard to drive over and would recommend owners make other arrangements. Staff/owners very nice. We camped here in a Motorhome.
A nice park. We parked down below the hill and away from the highway. Quiet and not any highway noise. It's shady, friendly and close to the casino for entertainment. Long pull throughs so we didn't have to unhook our ATV trailer from the back of the 5th wheel. Clean areas at sites. Would recommend it to others. Had a nice area for the dogs. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Site was a grass back in and level. Traffic noise from highway and railroad heard, but the pull through sites in the back should be quieter. Private phone near the office for registered guests. Cable TV had snow on lot of the channels. WI-FI worked well. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Decent campsite, but watch out for the cobblestone at the entrance. Owners were very friendly and helpful with directions. We stayed in the front near the office because of the need to wash clothes. If I were to stay here again I would ask for a site in the back where the pull thru are because of road noise. Very convent to Boot hill and downtown Dodge. I would recommend this campground. We camped here in a Motorhome.
This is a good place to stay to see the Boot Hill Museum and the general Dodge City area. While the campground is older, it is well kept and the owners are on site. The upper section in back will accommodate big rigs with the long and wide sites. It is gravel parking with larger rock, but drainage is good. The pet area is very large and grassy, the area surrounding the upper area for the pull throughs, but there's no free area for them to run and get exercise. As we were here in "winter" the activities hadn't started. We would stay here again if in the area. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Well kept campground. Although for sale, the current owners were very busy painting & fixing things up for the summer season. Sites are very large, nice & wide, plus long enough for our 40ft motorhome plus tow. Good Verizon air card & cell service. Quiet in upper area which is away from the road. There are trains in the area, if that noise bothers you. Other than Boot Hill (which is the usual tourist trap) not much to do in area. Great for a stop over or enough activities on site to keep kids busy on vacation or long weekend. We would stay again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Campground is clean and neat, with a large number of units there on extended stay (construction workers). The owners have decided to leave the campground open longer this year because of all of these campers. Many of the campground amenities, such as the ice cream parlor, were closed down and unavailable. The owners believe that the campground has been sold, and the new owners will be on board next spring. We camped here in a Motorhome.
I have stayed at this park three times: 2004, 2005, and 2009. The park provides spacious sites and is convenient to town. There is a wooded tent area which is great for quiet contemplation or reading, and much cooler than the rest of the area in the summer. Pets are not allowed in the tent area. There is plenty of room for pet walking otherwise. The park is up for sale. The current owners have been there for 9 years. It will be interesting to see what new owners do with it. Right now, there is major construction on the main highway: 50, through town and the driving surface is rough and narrow. If you want to stay at Gunsmoke and are coming from the east, take the 50 bypass and turn right when you reach Highway 50. If that's confusing, look at a map. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Campground is well laid out with large sites as long as they don't have to use them as "back to back" sites as set up. Interior roads were rough and muddy when we were there. $33 a night seems over-priced when several motels in town were offering "off-season" rates of $29 a night with "breakfast" included. We camped here in a Motorhome.
A pleasant park to spend 3 days. We were placed in the back, away from Hwy 160 so the road noise wasn't too noticeable. Occasional train noises and whistles during the night but not too bad. Entire park is dirt and gravel, which in itself is not bad, with long and level pull through sites, but, not surprisingly in this part of the US, a constant wind kicked up dirt and dust and covered our rig. I noticed a "This RV Park Is For Sale" sign in the office when checking in but the gal was friendly, helpful, and offered to assist if we needed anything during our stay. They had a well provisioned store with a small selection of groceries, RV items, and local souvenirs. We'll stay here again when passing through. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
A great park for seeing all the Dodge City and Santa Fe Trail sights. We were in a pull-through site in the back with plenty of room for our Jeep. Owners were very helpful and friendly. There is a nice clean laundry room. We didn't use the pool but it looked clean and inviting. Yes, there are train tracks right across the street and a highway, so you definitely hear noise, but it didn't bother us during our two-week stay. Would definitely stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Best campground in Dodge City. Pros: easy to find, easy to manuever, nice long, level sites. Good hookups, excellent Wi-Fi and friendly hosts. Only negative I could find is it seems a bit pricey. Road and train noise is not noticeable. The park is easy to access, therefore close to a road with some traffic. Did not hear trains unless I was outside. If in this area, I will always choose this park. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Easy access off Hwy 50, easy check in. We were in back side with pull through sites. These sites are approximately 90 feet long and nice and wide. The electric was very good, the wi-fi and cable were excellent. This is a gravel area which was no problem, but I did not give a l0 because of not being paved. One of the better campgrounds that we have stayed in on our trip. There was some train noise in the early morning, but no worse than a lot of campgrounds we have stayed at in in the West. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Very pleasant check-in by lady owner. She persuaded us to take a back-in site in the front section, as although these sites were small, the sites either side would be unoccupied and we'd have more space. We thought this was fantastic, until we realized that the sites in the back were lovely spacious pull-throughs and definitely would have been the better option at the same price. To be fair, we checked in really early, and a lot of people hadn't left, so maybe there wasn't a space avalable. Good points: it's very convenient for Dodge City, and when they complete the new casino it will be virtually next door. There is a small swimming pool that the kids on site seemed to enjoy, although we didn't use. Bad points: Be warned, the 'front' spaces overlook the main road and railway. The road isn't a problem but the railway certainly is! The first night we were awakened 4 times by the trains, the ground shakes, the horns blowing, it sounds as if it's going to drive through your RV! The second night we were awakened 3 times. Pleased, for that reason, we weren't staying longer. Without the intolerable noise, we'd have scored a 6, at $25 or less a 7. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
While visiting here, we were involved in a serious car (toad) accident. My wife had a severe laceration on her scalp and had to spend overnight in the hospital. In addition, she has a cracked vertebra and is wearing a collar for the near future. As to me, I am rather crippled as is and only suffered bruises but when walking is difficult to begin with, any additional pain is nasty. In any event, the people here were more than helpful and the proprietor took me to the hospital to see the missus. I can't thank them enough. I will definitely return. BTW, the park is otherwise great, too. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Easy access off of Hwy 50. Easy check-in. They have lots of long pull-through sites on gravel with large grassy areas in between the sites. The laundry room was very clean and all the equipment worked well. They have a nice store and even serve ice cream. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
On their web page, this campground is rated by a reference to Good Sam (and others) so I made a false assumption that they were Good Sam. They are not! The campground is very easy to find and enter. Right off US 50/400. Has a really neat old west theme with old time western store fronts. Staff is friendly but really stress the campground rules (I kind of felt like a little kid being scolded). Our site (as well as the others) was gravel and pretty level. There was no view (zero, zip, nada), looked right into the side of a grassy hill. There were plenty of trees (no leaves, it's February). Wi-Fi worked great and there were 68 cable TV stations to choose from. Lots of highway noise, trucks, etc. Railroad was right by the highway and the train noise was pretty loud. Even with the noise and lack of a view, we would definitely stay here again if we were in the area. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Park usually closed by mid-November. Call first. Older style, but Wi-Fi and cable worked fine. Instructed to shut off water by 9:30 so hydrant wouldn't freeze. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Gravel interior roads and sites. The pull thrus are straight in instead of at an angle. Wi-Fi worked great, lots of channels on the cable TV. We were in site #88 and it was unlevel side to side. Outside could hear highway noise, but not in our trailer, but could hear the train horns as they went by. Some what easy in easy out with a HDT and 35 ft trailer. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
This campground was great. The staff has kept it well maintained and I really enjoyed the little extras that were peppered throughout the area. (i.e. wagon wheels as road markers and the "grave site" at the entrance) We had a good time hanging out in the General Store eating ice cream and watching people play pool. (If you stay there be sure to ask for only one scoop unless you really love ice cream.) They are located less then 5 minutes to the Boot Hill Museum. We would stay here again for sure. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
The park was clean. Roads were gravel but the sites were nice as well as level. There was a small playground for the kids and they enjoyed it. We stayed here because we stopped in town to visit some old family friends. We would stay here again if passing thru town. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Over priced for what you get. Lady on check in could not give information about local dining or attractions and was rather rude when asked. Upon entering the park, the front section was unappealing but our spot was back in the back and was not too bad. Roads and sites are gravel. The park is a place for the night, but not a destination. There were a few that appeared long-term. Overall the park was neat and clean. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Nice park. Gravel roads and parking pads. They have put down fresh gravel where needed which shows they are maintaining the park. Mostly open, so our satellite worked just fine. The wind can be pretty fearsome with the thunderstorms, so we actually closed our slides and put down our satellite dish one night. Then we used the camp's cable tv and their wireless Internet to keep track of the storm. I would return. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Park was nice. Owners were friendly and the park is clean. I would go back for another stay if I should go out west again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
We just stayed for an evening. I think it was fine, it is older and being maintained. The bathrooms are neat and clean and appeared freshly painted. Good area for walking your dog if you have one. We would stay here again if we were passing thru. The owner was friendly with a dry sense of humor and a small gift shop. Pull thrus and quite grounds. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Management was very accommodating and helpful. We received no lecture. We were way in the back and noticed no smell as others have had. Yes, there is a train nearby, and horns were blown several times during the night. We had some commode trouble, and the front office personnel were more than helpful. They contacted the RV repair shop in town and through their intercession, arranged a repair for first thing in the morning. That's what I call help! The camp was very quiet and I had no hook-up trouble at all. I would stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
This is a good place to stay when visiting Dodge City. Entry and exit are easy. We stayed in the back part of the park in one of the very large pull through sites. Manager was very friendly and we got no lecture when we arrived. I did not notice any smell at all. We could not receive wi-fi at our spot in the back even though I have an excellent external antenna that rarely fails me. I would stay here again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Ok for an overnight or two, but sometimes the smell is a killer. The evening and morning train is just a loud train with a whistle. Like others the lecture one gets when you pay your money is a bit boring. Big negative is hose bibs are below ground in a box. If you are older and not in great shape it is tough. We camped here in a Motorhome.
The resort was nice for an overnight stay. The WiFi was down to the backside of the resort where we stayed. The train track is very close to the resort. The park was clean but there was a strong smell near the front of the park. The staff was nice and helpful. We had a nice tree at our site which we enjoyed. We camped here in a Motorhome.
We stayed here overnight on our way across Kansas. Clean, cheerful bathrooms, easy to navigate, at least in the back section. Didn't notice any highway noise, just a couple of trains, but they didn't wake us up. Friendly owners/managers (not sure which) and sufficient office hours for late check ins. Close to historic district and route 50. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Good signage to campground. Entrance wide and good gravel access roads to sites. Efficient and friendly owners. There are two parts to the campground. In the front part of the campground the sites are all gravel and you could experience a lot of road and rail noise. The back part of the campground has flat 70ft pull-thrus sites. There appeared to be wide grass areas between the gravel sites but when looking at numbering and hook-ups these grass areas can be sites when they are busy. There is little rail or road noise in the back part of the campground. Solid electricity and good water pressure. Good infrastructure and a well maintained campground. A good place to stay to visit Dodge City. We camped here in a Motorhome.
VERY VERY NICE!!! Owners were extremely friendly and helpful. We enjoyed our stay. Trains are close and run at 3AM but if you request the back area, you don't notice them as much. No highway noise that I noticed. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Very noisy due to proximity to RR tracks. Trains came through several times each night. WiFi didn't work worth a darn. Had to go to public library to connect. Dirt road was muddy but that can be expected in rainy weather. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Everything appeared to be very nice. We only spent one night but it looks like this place could get very packed in if they use all the hook ups. It looked like they used the grass area between each site as an over flow area all the sites around me had room for 2. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Friendly owner managers except for: They took more time going over the rules than they did in taking our money. We told them we were there for the night only ( 1 trailer, 1 5th wheel) and would not be unhitching. My rig is 53’ long. They put us on short sites in the area of sites 7,8, & 9. When we pulled into our sites there was a strong odor of sewage. Four other people in that area also found the odor offensive. We walked around and looked for uncapped sewer connections and found none. There was an area of fresh digging and new gravel. There was no odor in the upper area of 70’ pull through sites. There was no evidence of odor in the campsites near the office area. When this was brought to the attention of the manager (owner?) the friendliness disappeared and they blamed it on some camper with a loose sewer hose. We found none. We even removed the 4” sewer cap at our site and no odor jumped out at us. If we ever camp there again, we will insist in staying in the new area with the long pull through sites and will ask to first see the site to check for sewer odor. The new section is very nice and was about 80% full. They have a nice playground for children. The wifi was ok at our site. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Nice park with friendly staff. We loved our visit to Dodge City and my husband was in heaven with all the Old West history and displays. We both grew up in the "Gunsmoke" era and he had even escorted Amanda Blake to dinner one night (before we met) so he was really smitten! We plan on a return trip in the future. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Owners very friendly. Nice pool, excellent cable TV, weak Wi-Fi signal. The sites are okay, but very tight. Would stay again if in this area. We camped here in a Motorhome.
We stayed for a few days and enjoyed it. It was a good base to see the local sites. The pool was clean/warm and the sites ample. We went up to the second level in back, were its more quite. They sure do have a lot of rules though. Signs, signs, everywhere signs and they do take away from the experience. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
We stayed here a few days while one of us needed a doctor. The owners were very helpful. The cable channel list is extensive. We would come back. No complaints. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Nice place for a few days in Dodge. Owners on site, and are nice. Park older, but kept up well.
Spaces on the narrow side. Worth a stop. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Review Rating
[ 10 / 10 ]
2002
$18
This park is great. The restroom and showers are clean, fresh paint and everything works. The water is hot and the pressure is good. They have hand soap and paper towels in the restroom. The ice cream was fresh and really good. The prices were fair. The owners are real friendly and it was a pleasure to be there. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Review Rating
[ 10 / 10 ]
2002
$20
We had a very good time, the park was great and the people were very nice and helpful. Very clean!!!!! Lots of stuff to choose from in the convenient store and gift shop, besides a great choice of ice cream flavors. We had a good time playing pool in the game room and then relaxed in the swimming pool. this is my 3rd year of stopping there and I have made plans to stop there everytime I go thru that area. We camped here in a camper.
Review Rating
[ 10 / 10 ]
2002
$22
Great hosts, who are also the owners who have worked very hard to make this one of our favorite campgrounds. Everything spotless and in its place. We camped here in a camper.
Review Rating
[ 9 / 10 ]
2002
$23
Nice, clean park, and friendly owners. Try to get a site on the upper level if you don't mind walking a little farther to the office, pool, and laundry. Cleverly decorated restrooms. The washers and dryers have names, not numbers. One dryer is named "Sahara Sarah". We ducked in to avoid a major storm, and enjoyed our stay. We camped here in a camper.
Review Rating
[ 8 / 10 ]
2002
$21
Western theme facilities attractive. Laundry is small but clean. Easy access from highway. Side-by-sidecamping can be very cramped but, only used if park is full. We camped here in a camper.
Review Rating
[ 7 / 10 ]
2000
$18
Mostly dirt sites, set close together. Friendly operator/owners. Close to historic Dodge City We camped here in a camper.
Ugh. What a sad place. Only a few RV spaces - the rest are permanent trailers, rusting yard cars and scary looking sites. No way would I come back. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
Very nice and quiet private campground. They have full hookups. There is a great lake area for boating, swimming, and fishing. Would recommend. We camped here in a Fifth Wheel.
Scary looking place. Lots of junky trailers and other permanent stuff. Bathrooms and showers are clean but outdated. Great WI-FI and cable. If they would clean up or kick out all the riff Raff this place would be nice. Don't know where the horrible smell is coming from, the lake? We would not stay again. We camped here in a Motorhome.
A gorgeous spot, and the staff was super nice. I didn't even know it was Good Sam so I missed the 10% discount, but hey, $18 for a lake front site! What's not to like. We camped here in a Motorhome.
This park had a number of eyesores and the lake next to it is so trashy and smelly that I would not set a foot in it. The water pressure is low and the park has that junkyard look to it. Staff were more than friendly and helpful but the grounds need a major overhaul. We camped here in a Motorhome.
Appears to be an older park with some trashy trailers. Close to Dodge City activities. Our site (#12) was barely enough for our big rig. During our visit, an offensive odor drifted from the processing plants. Friendly staff. Ask for AAA or Good Sam discount. We camped for one night. We camped here in a Motorhome.
A basic park with much of the property reserved for seasonal sites along the lake. Our pull through site was very long, but a little narrow to park the truck next to the trailer. Large fields are available for pet walking and a nice enclosed pet run. Short term visitors can fish for free in the lake, but can not boat. We camped here in a Travel Trailer.
A rather plain park; hosts were friendly and helpful. For the $19 rate, this is a suitable park. The biggest drawback was that the first row of sites is on a street that actually is used as a through street--traffic was obtrusive at times, and even school buses ran through in the a.m. and stirred up a lot of dust on the dirt road. We would have rated it higher had it not been for the traffic noise and dust. Sites are a bit short for longer rigs (ours is 42'); utilities were reliable and there are convenience items in the on-site store. We camped here in a Motorhome.
We drove through this park without even considering stopping, and we're not THAT picky! In order to get to the RV sites, you must first drive through a crowded and rundown mobile home park. The RV park is not much better. The vast majority of the sites appeared to be occupied by permanent residents living in poorly maintained rigs. We opted to stay at the Gunsmoke, and were told by the owners here that permanent
residents had become somewhat of a problem in the area, which had prompted them to stop advertising a monthly
rate. I recommend the Gunsmoke for traveling RVers. We camped here in a camper.
Review Rating
[ 8 / 10 ]
2002
$18
A very pleasant surprise for a campground not well rated by the "directories". On a man made lake, created by a sand company that filled the hole with water. - Not a small lake, fed from wells with nice bass and other fishing. Since we didn't have our toad, the owner shuttled us back and forth to the museum, boot hill and
other. Actually colocated with a trailer park but well positioned so that rv park has lake priority and trailer park doesn't come into play. We camped here in a camper.