About two months ago, I was looking at RV's just for kicks, and noticed that RV's don't come with Batwings any more. Now they come with something that looks like a miniature stealth airplane: http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/produ...na-systems/9784 My understanding is that you don't have to "crank" these any more. However, you can still spin them around, you just don't "crank them up." They are supposed to be better for HD reception. Anyone have one or know someone who does?